I wonder if we are not simply missing the scope, here. As what I said seems most near this proposal, I post here. To build a strategy, we have to ask what we have to do to make our work better. What do we do well, what do we do bad. I think most of the general goals of an Operating System are already available with the present openSUSE 11.2. So, why change at all? Why an 11.3? This reflexion was led by the fact than on my second computer I still run Windows *XP* So, * why do I run Windows? * Why can I run XP (nearly 10 years old OS, on a 4 years old computer) To have an answer ("I" being not myself, but the average openSUSE user), ask anybody on this list: do you or your family/colleagues run windows, and if yes, why? For me it's very limited: * I (in fact my 90 years old mum) have to read the power point slideshow his relatives send him once a day. Right now openoffice can't completely; * I (that's me) need to syn my GPS/cell phones and openSUSE can't * I need to do video camcorder editing and no present application can do what Magix do in Windows (I would even accept to pay for that the $100 I pay for Magix) - Magix, or Vegas, or Pinnacle studio... That's nearly all. I'm sure that if we didn't so much emphasis on having the very last kde/what so ever, we could have a handfull devs working on these problems and solving them. So "the distribution that make Windows unusefull" would be a good name... this could be 'the base". And this base shouldn't change too often jdd NB: and why can I run XP? because all the hardware vendors still support it -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-support-the-Linux-Documentation-Project/3720... http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-fan-page-of-Claire-Dodin/106485119372062?v... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org