On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 00:23 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
While input from users is valuable (and there is a number of VERY knowledgeable non-developers lurking on this list giving VERY valuable feedback from time to time), too much heavily distracts from the work to be done. Some developers have unsubscribed from our core development list(s) for this reason and frankly I care far more about getting them back than getting a bit less input from users.
But this goes back to our earlier discussion - how do we balance our core lists when it comes to amount of traffic, feedback we get, checkups on the 'real-ness of issues', quality, moderation etcetera. Something to discuss at oSC (October, Praha, more info coming soon).
I don't think itwould be fair to assume that all developers who left a particular ML did so because they disliked the rancor going on in that list. Some simply avoid ML's because its just not their thing. They're simply not interested in discussions whether it has substance or not. And that's fine, I can respect that. But I think what we're really concerned about is how to get the endresult useful bits that come out of any discussion. And I'll grant that some comments on any given thread are clearly outrageously inappropriate or unproductive. But others are sometimes interpreted as unproductive by some and productive by others. It would be interesting if we could come up with a way to summarize the final points of any given discussion and convey it to any given stakeholders (including those who are not on a ML but are directly involved in the subject matter.) I fear though that human reality dictates that we'll never achieve such a lofty goal. Getting someone or some team to diligently summarize every relevant thread is simply never going to happen. I guess the point I'm making here is that we're discussing how to keep a discussion productive, and we're not discussing how to extract the productive bits of a discussion to implement somewhere. Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org