* Tony Walker <tony.walker.iu@gmail.com> [04-17-24 14:17]:
On 4/17/24 13:59, Bill Schouten wrote:
Hence why I said I’m not attacking or accusing and was just providing context. Nothing more.
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 1:44 PM Shawn W Dunn <sfalken@cloverleaf-linux.org <mailto:sfalken@cloverleaf-linux.org>> wrote:
On 4/17/24 07:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Emily Gonyer <emilyyrose@gmail.com <mailto:emilyyrose@gmail.com>> [04-17-24 10:42]: > > ... > >> +1 >> >> I have taken a huge step away from the project over the last couple of >> years, because as far as I can tell the CoC doesn't seem to matter to most >> of the project. >> >> openSUSE, like the rest of the tech world would love to pretend and believe >> it is open and welcoming. But, it's not. It is, of course, if you're the >> right kind of person. > > most of the WORLD has no idea of your character until you have interacted > with them. perhaps you have failed to make a positive impression. > >> If you're not? Well then. The project will accept your contributions, if it >> must. It'll accept you as a member... After a LOT of questioning. But, no, >> it doesn't really want you around. > > odd that. only question I was presented was how I contributed. perhaps I > should take that a being intrusive and objectionable. > > > > > a glowing recommendation if I have ever heard one. > wearing chips instead of epaulets? the chips do not help. > >
Thanks Patrick, I'm glad that you're able to decide that only your personal experiences and/or perspective are valid, and anybody that has seen things otherwise is just a whiner, or has a chip on their shoulder.
Very constructive and helpful.
Patrick, your responses leave me with many questions. Here are a few, ...
Do questions or assertions lead to more insight and understanding?
usually
Had you asked Emily about her experiences, would what you don't know have become our problem?
the onus is not mine to relate others experiences. an accusation of abuse was made without foundation. how would you have one to understand? and how would that make me to have become "our problem"?
Have you ever told someone to RTFM, find the list guidelines, or use Google? Would simply and quickly Googling Emily have helped you?
you have lost it. certainly when information is obvious and readily available, the solution, RTFM is pertinent and applicable. googling "Emily" and "Emily's tech world experiences" provide voluminous information but none that readily appear relevant.
If you don't care how anyone else thinks or feels, why should any of us care what you think or feel?
you are assuming facts not in evidence. you have assumed the position speaking for the entire list while only a few have even participated. and she presented a very negative appearance of my chosen distro, which your ?questions?, perhaps personal attack on me show little concern for my "feelings". Emily is free to offer explanation of her claimed affront. better we simply return to supporting our chosen distro. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc