On Friday 13 June 2008, Stephen Shaw wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Druid <marcio.ferreira@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Stephen Shaw <sshaw@decriptor.com> wrote:
So, I'm constantly hearing complaints about 1-click. Am I the only one? Should the 1 click process be shortened?
What does the subject of the email has to do with the content?
Anyways, congrats on the maximum vagueness you achieved in your message, its really impossible to tell what are the problems (if they exist, if bugs are opened or not, or what exactly is the so-called complain), and how is the process possibly be shortened or stuff (maybe cut some steps, like installing the package, or solving dependencies, make it run as root without authentication, dont ask for confirmation of the user, that would certainly make it short).
I have a suggestion: why not make a script that you could use with "wget -O -q $url/$name | sh" (like in XD2, right?) as root and that would copy and overwrite stuff like some sort of automatix script breaking dependencies? That would shorten the process significantly, and possibly eliminate the complains about 1-click. Who's with me?
cheers
Marcio --- Druid
Sorry for the vagueness. I personally have NO problem with 1-click. I use it often and recommend it just as much. I think the build service is awesome too. I'm not trying to pick on 1-click or offend anyone on the project.
What I was meaning to say, was that I have had many people complain to me about the name of 1-click and if the name is 1 click why does it take 8 or 9 clicks to accomplish the task. The general purpose of "1-click" is to tell the users, here is a simple way to install a package. And even with the general 4 clicks or so (my experience) it's still a simple and easy way to install a package. At least myself can live better with the name "1-click" instead of "5-click" and I hear much more positive feedback than negative. Naming here is definitely kind of marketing driven but it helps here much more than it hurts.
M
Please note that I am NOT user X
For example:
21:39 < X > Y: uhm, so I just tried out the "1 click install" from the build service.. 21:40 < X > Y: it took me 8 clicks... ? --- snip --- 21:40 < X> yeah, I installed bzr via 1 click at the build service site. --- snip --- 21:42 < X > seems it'd be less clicks if I just downloaded an .rpm directly.. --- snip --- 21:48 < Y > X: a lot of people have commented on that, but what name would you give it 21:49 < X > well not 1 click, that's for sure ;) --- snip --- 21:46 < X > and apturl, which is also a web-based installation shortcut manages the same thing in two clicks. 21:46 < X > one to click the link, one to verify you want it installed.. and dependencies. --- snip --- 21:52 < X > i just don't think that logic makes sense.. may as well call it 'one click email' and 'one click firefox', because those are all 'started with just one click' --- snip --- 21:54 < X > if it were two or three clicks (to verify and one for the password) that'd be reasonable, but 8+ clicks just really makes it stand out. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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