On 4/11/24 2:13 PM, Richard Brown wrote:
On 2024-04-11 05:03, Simon Lees wrote:
Sorry if I didn't make it clear in my previous email but absolutely the CoC does and should apply in this channel and people violating it should be banned. I thought that was implied from my previous reply in the thread.
Having said that If "User1" has known "User2" for many years, I don't think that "User1" sending a message "/me farts at User2" as a morning greeting (and then User2 maybe farting back) would be considered a CoC violation. In almost all our communications spaces it'd be very much off topic but in what is mostly a social space its probably not off topic.
Also i'm unsure how you'd write such guidelines for social channels and probably it should be up to the individual social channel to come up with any guidelines that are required beyond what's currently in the CoC.
But again such behavior is obviously off-topic for our support and development channels and any members action's that violate the CoC should absolutely have appropriate action taken.
Simon,
I have been sanctioned by the Board for things I have said in a non-openSUSE channel (Twitter/X), in a discussion in which none of the participants were aggrieved and all parties involved disagreed with the sanction of the Board.
The justification for the sanction was precisely that the CoC is scoped in a way to hold account all members of this community as representatives of the Project to all who witness their behaviour.
The tone and content of -chat is wholly unacceptable.
It may have been in the past, it may still be at times now, however since recently rejoining the channel I am yet to see any such behavior which makes it very hard to take any action. Even the loose example I gave on this list is years old at this point and not something I have personally seen recently. If you or anyone else have any RECENT examples of such behavior please email them to board@ so that action can be taken as appropriate. Currently we don't have any concrete examples and therefore can't do much other then monitor the situation and hope that things stay pleasant. If they do not then of course we will actually be able to take action. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B