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On 4/11/24 9:11 PM, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 11.04.24 um 10:49 schrieb Richard Brown:
You're demonstrating a tendency to trust what you witness for a limited period of time over the views of multiple trusted community members who have witnessed this problem for a much longer period of time.
These multiple trusted community members who volunteer to deal with this stuff every day, so the Board don't have to.
That's all fine and good. But even if we all trust the moderators doing a fine job, I still feel like it is a good idea to have a second, separate entity take a look at the issue.
And I could not read Simon saying "there never was an isuse". He clearly stated (quoting from Memory, that's what I remember from my reading the previous thread): "I have been watching this for
Personally, I think that's OK.
Also IRC was the first openSUSE community I joined back in 2011, and while we were both on the board Richard, the board appointed me as a moderator of the then #suse irc channel which I have been active in since including the transition to libera chat that you also helped with. It is true that I handn't been in #opensuse-chat as regularly because I was never a mod there and I found it interrupted my productivity if I had it on auto join I have spent significant time there. I have been having issues with my IRC client (the fun of patching and building from source) which means I wasn't in the channel at the time of the initial report but since it was raised with the board I made it a priority to keep it working as well as scroll back and keep track of what was happening over night. The same with #opensuse-chat once it was raised with the board some weeks later. Although I have since been informed that when my client was down the other day and before I re joined #opensuse-chat I did miss a couple of messages that clearly violated the CoC. But the "I have been watching this for X, and during this time no issues were present, so it seems like the situation is reasonable *right now*". Is an accurate statement as to what was said in the board meeting, additionally I stated that generally before that time I was also regularly present in #opensuse although I hadn't been as much in the month before the issue was raised due to client issues. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B