On 12/12/10 21:22, Marcus Meissner wrote:
[....] Well, whatever someone actually _does_ and not just emits talks will happen.
Hmm, this is a bit of a chicken and egg problem. You shouldn't really start such a project without having a plan and a team that's able to deliver the expectations, so discussions certainly are required. However, discussing everything to death will lead to nothing, I fully agree. Having read the emails of the last couple of days, I definitely think some people try to run a marathon without even having learned to stand up and walk. ;-) It seems as if Wolfgang is now going ahead with an 11.1 LTS version. I personally think that's the wrong decision, I would have started with an SLES clone, to be honest. (And, if asked, I would not have based an LTS version on 11.1.) Unless you got kernel developers, very good programmers (including people who know the low-level stuff), and quite a few experienced software testers in the team, it will be difficult to maintain the software and deliver high quality over the entire lifetime of an LTS release. But there you go. So all the best to Wolfgang, hopefully he will manage to handle that project, I am sure the openSUSE community would benefit from it. Andrew would like to start an openSLES project, so now we already have two competing approaches. Given our very limited resources, I don't think this is going to work. If we look into a SuSE-based Linux release with long(er) lifetime, I think we need to focus on one such project. It will be more than enough work, i.e. splitting the resources and working on projects that compete with each other (at least in some areas) doesn't sound like a good start, at least from my perspective. Has anybody checked with Boyd Gerber who tried to start a similar project about a year ago? Maybe we could learn from his experiences and avoid the same mistakes this time. I haven't seen any contributions from him in this thread, I hope he's still around (trying a CC on this email). Regards, Thomas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org