Rob OpenSuSE wrote:
2008/12/23 James Tremblay aka SLEducator <fxrsliberty@opensuse.us>:
Rob OpenSuSE wrote:
2008/12/23 James Tremblay aka SLEducator <fxrsliberty@opensuse.us>:
I think it was suggesting only security fixes for X.0 which misrepresented it.
The ppl on net who early adopt, need something in return, that would be bragging rights about the 'hottest' kernel, glibc and what ever else can be got out the door, and be of 'beta' quality.
so our model would look like this; 12.0 major revamp and early adopter aka factory = full dvd 12.1 version updates,bugfixes,security = upgrade dvd and\or patch cd 12.2 major bugfixes and security updates = upgrade dvd and\or patch cd 12.3 stable lts version and SLE RC1= full dvd
Factory helps produce 12.0, so those able to run that, have the newest stuff first. 12.0 - introduces things that are destabilising and new distro developments that need field testing (if poss) ; No DVD needed, just small size download and good net access. Anyone without could not keep up with the likely updates.
Follow on releases, would provide iso's, 12.1, 12.2 would add things like KDE 4.3, GNOME 2.28 You do them to suit, not set in stone.
Anyone who installed a previous 12.x series, ought to get the updates, so things are changing on them. That's a reward, for being 'brave' and trying the latest. Also you get ppl off versions of things, noone wants to support.
or 12.0 stable lts version and SLE RC1 = dvd 12.1 major revamp and early adopter aka factory = dvd 12.2 version updates, bugfixes, security = upgrade dvd and\or patch cd 12.3 major bugfixes and security updates = upgrade dvd and\or patch cd
with this second choice we get an extra 9 months to make 11.3 onto 12.0 and to advertise the change. In the end, I want my SLE's to upgrade with Zenworks schedules rather than be re-imaged. i.e. drop upgrade ISO onto installation server and schedule with Zenworks.
It's a change of perspective, the real release is the last one, that should be solid. Everything before is there to get that wide spread testing, that the beta & rc versions are not, on lots of hardware out in the field.
On option 2 style, I am concerned that you lose flexibility and end up delivering software that's 'stale'.
I'm not sure an extremely polished 12.0 would be viewed as "stale", considering KDE4's status and the impending GNOME 2.28, we might even get kudo's for taking the extra time to solidify 12.0 while we make a "programatic" change to our delivery system. This could even gain us ground in terms of the "it just worked" comments. With this increase we would really be converting users to openSUSE that see Ubuntu as having more "user acceptance" before release. Bottom line, time taken to gain ground against the bugs isn't ever bad.
12.0, 12.1, 12.2 could follow relatively quickly, but be lower key, than 11.1 was. They'd be more focussed.
The real release, the biggie would be that one in November, 12.3 becoming openSUSE 12, and the basis for SLES/SLED.
The whole point is, you have the maximum number testing the same release, and you'ld get a gradual migration awaay from older release to the 'current' one, depending on their like of stability.
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