On 2024-04-11 05:03, Simon Lees wrote:
Sorry if I didn't make it clear in my previous email but absolutely the CoC does and should apply in this channel and people violating it should be banned. I thought that was implied from my previous reply in the thread.
Having said that If "User1" has known "User2" for many years, I don't think that "User1" sending a message "/me farts at User2" as a morning greeting (and then User2 maybe farting back) would be considered a CoC violation. In almost all our communications spaces it'd be very much off topic but in what is mostly a social space its probably not off topic.
Also i'm unsure how you'd write such guidelines for social channels and probably it should be up to the individual social channel to come up with any guidelines that are required beyond what's currently in the CoC.
But again such behavior is obviously off-topic for our support and development channels and any members action's that violate the CoC should absolutely have appropriate action taken.
Simon, I have been sanctioned by the Board for things I have said in a non-openSUSE channel (Twitter/X), in a discussion in which none of the participants were aggrieved and all parties involved disagreed with the sanction of the Board. The justification for the sanction was precisely that the CoC is scoped in a way to hold account all members of this community as representatives of the Project to all who witness their behaviour. The tone and content of -chat is wholly unacceptable. The Board need to do something about it, not provide a safe-space for toxicity worse than the Board would act upon elsewhere. Your “old boys defence” is wholly unacceptable and, if representative of the Board as a whole, dramatically undermines my faith in any decision regarding conduct. I think our moderators deserve better support from you Regards -- Richard Brown Distributions Architect SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Frankenstraße 146, D-90461 Nuremberg, Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Managing Directors/Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev, Andrew McDonald, Werner Knoblich