On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:49:13 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 02 August 2009 07:54:50 pm Jim Henderson wrote:
If that's all the discussion is about, then put KDE at the top of the list and leave it set as no default selection.
The whole discussion is about user perception of KDE status within openSUSE.
Well, my perception as a user is that KDE is the predominant desktop (not just from the surveys but because I know the makeup of the development team at SUSE, and know a few of them personally).
Current status is political rubbish that doesn't help anyone to feel good, as this whole thread shows.
Bingo. However most of the proposed solutions also are political rubbish that don't help anyone feel good. Certainly not helped by the few who won't feel good unless their solution is the one picked as the solution.
IMHO, good solution is to set one release KDE as default, the other GNOME. That would be equal status, and nobody will feel endangered. The message that sent to users will be clear, provided that .
Well, that is double the work (unless I misunderstand what you're saying here) and leaves those who actually want both with a point of decision to make - as well as no doubt the ensuing battle over which option gets listed first on the website. Unless your proposal is to alternate the default selection with each release - odd releases get GNOME as the default, even get KDE as the default. That would set 11.2 with a default selection of KDE and 11.3 with a default selection of GNOME. That might work. But I do think the installer should make it clear that both can be installed at the same time and provide that option, and certainly let the person doing the installation override any default set (if it's absolutely necessary that one be set, still not convinced that one *needs* to be set as the default).
Not using any default is not helping new users at all, as it pushes our inability to make decision in this simple matter to the user.
It belongs to the user, though. Providing the user with the information to make an informed decision (such as the liveCDs) is the right thing to do IMO. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org