Am 01.12.2010 14:02, schrieb Sebastian Siebert:
But openSUSE LTS means more work as the maintainer (Hundreds of packages). Any security patches need to be backported. Who can perfect C or C++? Few of us can this do who like to want to get involved and that's not enough.
There are people who can do it. If there are enough to get it rolling is the thing I'm currently concerned with. That's true. There is no need to be a perfect C/C++ programmer though. It's still open source and probably other people doing similar patches for similar versions. For certain packages we may allow updates if needed.
The most important question to openSUSE LTS: How long will it be supported? 3 years or 5 years?
As long as we can make it. I wouldn't make any commitments. IMHO 5 years is out of scope currently. Three years would be a target.
The older the system gets, the less interesting it becomes. Since then other problems arise such as: migration problems, because the software is too old. How will you fixed the issue if the software is too old?
On a case by case base. We cannot provide any service level agreements. And yes there will be problems we cannot fix. And I never would tell people to keep it running if they don't need to. And still users would have more secure systems as they have today.
This happens when a rolling release or shorter update cycle less, because it would be updated automatically the data structure by the software. I have a production server with openSUSE 11.2. I don't have any problem with "zypper dup". Adjustments are quickly done and it still runs today. The server has started with openSUSE 10.3 and I have to added a few openSUSE repositories like Apache, MySQL, PHP, Postfix, etc. (Like a little rolling-release). :-)
The openSUSE Tumbleweed is more interesting, because all patches (security related too) are implemented in the next package version and you are always on the latest technical level. This is as interesting as Arch or Gentoo.
Yes, that can be interesting. But it's not the same usecase. Many of my machines are just running somewhere. I don't want to touch them besides running online updates. I cannot do that with rolling updates.
Only lazy and strict conservative people have an LTS version. :-)
Yes, I'm lazy. Why should I maintain machines which are running fine for years. I have servers running for some friends somewhere and I don't want to spend much time with them. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org