Per Jessen <per@computer.org> writes:
agustin benito bethencourt wrote:
commas are relevant. For some, openSUSE might be just the Linux you work with. For others, it might be the Linux you work with for a living.
That's a very subtle difference, if any at all. I don't quite get it, can someone spell it out for me? If I read the sentence with the comma and pause before "for a living", it does't seem to change much? The "for a living" part remains an important qualifier.
Agreed. The sentence comes from the thought process that lead to this discussion. There is flavors of serious use.A oS:Factory contributing student certainly is working with openSUSE, but not for a living. That part imposes additional constraints that you have immediately identified:
The Linux you work with, for a living.
I like the concept, and have been working with openSUSE Linux for a living since 2004. With a good dose of frustration every and now and then. When you work with something for a living, it has to remain fairly stable, you can't be introducing your employees to a new steep learning curve every other day.
Yep, an ever current rock solid Factory is something a developer and a contributor want and value, and that is cool if you don't have additional dependencies deployed on top, as in "for a living". So there is a need for a released version, too.
Wrt "A desktop and a server oriented release that target end users that work everyday with their computers.", it would be good to define the "end users" in this context more precisely.
Go ahead :) This part more than anything is a community project of professionals around openSUSE. People like yourself.
For instance, where should/would openSUSE place itself when compared to SLED/SLES?
openSUSE is good for many cases, depending on the community it may even become better than it is today, but when you need more than a volunteer community can generate, you should easily and without pain be able to move to SLES. That move obviously also helps the project. There is only a limited energy available for openSUSE releases and their mainteance updates. If you --- as a professional --- need more for your customer than what the community provides, much longer maintenance, certified hardware, higher-end hardware, certified applications for your customer, then both your customer and you will be better served with SLE. Where do you, as a professional using openSUSE, see the transition area between the two? Where would you like to see it? S. -- Susanne Oberhauser SUSE LINUX Products GmbH +49-911-74053-574 Maxfeldstraße 5 Processes and Infrastructure 90409 Nürnberg GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org