On Fri, 27 May 2022, at 11:01, Lukáš Krejza wrote:
Dne pátek 27. května 2022 12:39:11 CEST, Lubos Kocman napsal(a):
On Fri, 2022-05-27 at 10:36 +0200, Lukáš Krejza wrote:
I still don't understand why majority does not consider IRC + Mailing Lists just enough. Connecting to IRC is just easy as hitting alt+F2, write "konv" and hit enter... Also the UI seems much cleaner and easier to me. It's also faster and the UI is not overloaded, the network overhead is much smaller...
Could be sufficient for a contributor with some existing knowledge of how things work, whom to contact, where to subscribe etc.
I did some "unexpected" experiment with Robert (in cc) from SUSE Community yesterday, and the barrier seems to be high for a new commer.
Perhaps clear instruction how to communicate from home page would help. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels is good, but again you need to know what you're looking for.
Well, when you start Konversation, it automatically connects you to libera.chat and joins #opensuse channel. There is one textbox for writing messages and a user list on the right and you can ask questions right away. You do not need to contact anyone specific or subscribe anywhere. Just start it and write. Where is the barrier here, also when compared to Discord, where you need invite link AFAIK and the UI is much "harder" to understand with those functions not really needed for asking a question, etc...? I am not trying to troll here or something, I just don't understand it.
I don't find IRC sufficient as it does not safe the answers when you're not connected to the server anymore. How can you expect someone to login, ask the question and keep staying logged in till the question has been sufficiently answered or the conversation you were participating in has died out, to wait to logout again. I've used ICQ (#28540010 if you want to message me :) as it still exists..), MSN messenger, IRC all in the early '00's, but I'm really happy that we just use Matrix, Telegram or Discord to keep track of the conversation when I'm not online. Starting up and joining the server/channel is not the issue, keeping track of the conversation is. /Syds
Regards, Gryffus
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