Hey, On 10.07.24 18:45, Tony Walker wrote:
On 7/10/24 09:19, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Don't get me wrong, those are things that may need to happen in one form or another. Power also will have to be exercised in one form or another in bad situations. But those activities have next to *no* effect on the sustainability of this community.
While I don't agree entirely here (described in a different email), structure (or formalization) and building power are not necessarily connected. Formalization can also protect open and democratic processes from abuse.
Having more formalized "governance" to protect our democratic processes from abuse would be a nice solution *if* we would have this problem. But we don't. We have another problem: not enough contributors to sustain this community in the long run. If we don't fix that it doesn't matter if we protect our democratic processes better in case of abuse. No people, no democratic processes, no abuse.
But there are also meaningful ways to grow our community:
I agree, but I contend that formalization of communication and open democratic processes will help here. I am not necessarily advocating the Debian model, but it worth considering part of it.
That would also be a nice experiment if we could transfer from one state (our current form) to another other state (influenced by Debian's form) while causing *no* friction and additional work while doing this transition. But we can't. We have the people we have. We have the resources we have. We are in the state we are in. Our communities efforts are like a coin. We can spend them any way we wish, but we can only spend it once. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson