From my perspective oS won't be the biggest/greatest KDE distribution because of an additional radio button but because of its technical implementation as well as the awesome support provided by the OBS to both stable and developer editions of oS - that's a real strength we have compared to e.g. Ubuntu or Fedora or Mandriva or whatever. Another point to differentiate from other projects is care - oS's KDE implementation reflects care imho - something one couldn't say about e.g. Kubuntu. Let me raise another question here: Are we the greatest KDE distribution already? I think we are, just due to other (much more important) reasons. Just remember how much work have been put into backporting KDE4.2 features in 11.1's KDE4.1 implementation or the
Fellow community members, I have to admit that I haven't read all your comments yet, but I'd like to take the opportunity to share my very personal point of view. Frank Karlitschek's arguments for an additional radio button, i.e. a default selection of KDE, doesn't make too much sense to me. Neither would a default selection of GNOME do btw - here's why... Confusion to new users? Honestly, whatever distribution you choose, you need to inform yourself beforehand about the desktop selection. oS LiveCDs are available for test-driving and we always have the opportunity to higher knowledge about desktop environments to new users - that's what we should concentrate on in that context from my perspective. oS being the only big KDE distribution? maintenance of even two KDE editions for a rather long time. KDE developers need a nice distribution to develop on? Don't they have one already - oS? What does a default selection of KDE contributes to it? Honestly I simply can't see your point here. increase the popularity of openSUSE in the KDE user community? This is the major issue I'd like to comment on. From my perspective our BIG strength is, that we support choice - I mean a REAL choice. We have excellent implementations of both GNOME and KDE, that's something we really differentiate from other projects. Frank Karlitschek outlines a potentially positive effect within the KDE community and if he proves right, imho it's not the best argument for the objectiveness of this community - with due respect. Shouldn't the actual implementation of KDE and the care of the oS project for the KDE community be the actual reason KDE community members should use oS? Is a radio button really a better argument? I don't know - I can't see this point. What I see as a MUCH bigger issue is the influence to the GNOME community. A decision to select KDE as the default just sets them apart - much more than to express an appreciation to the KDE community imho. GNOME definitely is the "little sister" of KDE in our distribution (no question) but I explicitly use the word "sister" here - KDE folks, i.e. Frank Karlitschek, think about the bad impact such a decision would have for GNOME. Shouldn't we think as "the oS community" rather then a KDE and a GNOME "battleline"? Think about it - I hope you feel my thoughts helpful. Best, Rupert (long-time oS GNOME user) -- Rupert Horstkötter, openSUSE community http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rhorstkoetter Email: rhorstkoetter@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org