On 4/11/24 15:53, Natasha Ament wrote:
Hi Simon and others,
Even though I'm not a board member I do have an opinion about "toilet humour". It has no place in an open and welcoming environment. If you want to forge a stable and caring community and strive together for a better product toilet humour is borderline bigotry. Appeasement is not something that contributes to that stable and caring community where newcomers and advanced users can exchange thoughts without name calling, insults, and threats. Letting these people roam free is a direct threat to that goal and the principles that are at the core of the CoC. I think the board needs to have a long hard look in the mirror and think if it is able to enforce the Code of Conduct. If not it is a dead letter and not worth the paper it's written on. When can those rules be not applied because it is only "Toilet Humour" and "Boys will be boys". You can't have it both ways. It's time to choose.
Kind regards,
Natasha
I absolutely agree. When the discussion started, I thought Simon missed a good opportunity to pause, listen, and reflect. I encourage Simon to consider how this discussion would have been different with a thoughtful apology and some reflection. Leadership is tough and, yet, leaders must hold themselves to higher standards. It bothered me when I read that Richard was sanctioned for his comments when other official members are not. Double-standard is a phrase that many would use, but I have two stronger words that I won't use. Despite the words we would use, this is a major problem that really needs some careful consideration. When I was young someone told me that those who are loud, abrasive, arrogant, etc. in public are usually the most insecure. It's not always true, but I have found it to be a good approximation of reality. Being kind, generous, patient, flexible, etc. is often a sign of wisdom. Those with nothing to prove, ...well... have nothing to prove. It bothers me that some of those who I have come to respect in my short time here are reconsidering their involvement or feel helpless or worse. Trading quiet wisdom for ...well... the opposite would be huge loss. My advice anyway. -- Tony Walker <tony.walker.iu@gmail.com> PGP Key @ https://tonywalker1.github.io/pgp 9F46 D66D FF6C 182D A5AC 11E1 8559 98D1 7543 319C