Op ma 29 mei 2023 om 22:08 schreef Wouter Onebekend <wouter.onebekend@proton.me>:
Hello,
On Monday, May 29th, 2023 at 9:13 PM, Natasha Ament <stacheldrahtje@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't help but notice Wouter that your language is changing a bit more aggressively with each e-mail. First it's an ideology. Later in the day all of a sudden it's an extreme ideology. How does a rainbow flag resemble an extreme ideology?
The actions of those flying it.
From your e-mails posted here and in the factory mailinglist I gather you are no fan of the LGBTQIA+ movement. But to call a minority group that has to endure abuse day in and day out an extreme ideology, really?
I may have been a bit imprecise about this. I do make a distinction between the group itself and its, for lack of a better word, advocates. There are in fact some people in the LGBT community who regard this whole political movement with rainbow flags, pride months and a whole bunch of other things with quite a bit of unease. They feel like they might be getting used as revolutionary subject by leftists groups. The author Douglas Murray who among other things happens to be a homosexual man wrote an entire book about it, in fact "The Madness of Crowds".
So basically anyone waving a rainbow flag is an extremist. Is it just the rainbow flag or all people waving flags? As far as I can understand the far right has a history when it comes to flag waving.
These advocates absolutely are extremists and I don't think they have the LGBT community's best interests in mind. They just need a revolutionary subject to take up arms on behalf of. In my opinion they care as much about the LGBT community as the communists of old cared about the working class.
To surmise, I find your intentions less than friendly, not to say hostile. Hostile towards a minority group. I am not sure how this movement may have wronged you.
Now I am indeed not too fond of the LGBT community purely in terms of their sexual orientation either, yes. I have been on the receiving end of unwanted sexual advances by homosexuals who absolutely would not take 'no' for an answer in my life. On two occasions I had to use violence to ward them off. As a consequence I am quite wary of them. I am willing to tolerate them, but I will always retain that wariness. And yes, this is another reason I do not want to fly that flag.
It is unfortunate you were assaulted. I find it important to separate these two individuals from a whole group of people who fight oppression, insults and abuse every day. The flag is just a symbol, nothing more nothing less. How you construe this as linked to your assault is beyond me. From what you have written thus far I get the impression that everyone who does not agree with your point of view is an extremist, far left or a combination of both.
What I do know is that you're victimizing yourself at the expense of other people, which is not 'nice' in my book.
I guess I could accuse you of victim blaming now but since I've always been able to successfully defend the kind of virginity I plan to take to my grave, I won't ;-)
As for the happenings of your unfortunate friend we lack the context in which his firing came about.
I can only give the rather unsatisfactory "disagreed with woke people, got fired as a result of the resulting smear campaign" information I already gave. More information might allow somebody to identify him, and I want to avoid that. The specifics terribly important either, this sort of thing has been happening quite a bit over the past couple of years. I just want to put the information that this sort of thing _does_ indeed happen and that it affects real people in real ways out there and ask to people to think twice about taking part in smear campaigns.
Regards,
An Anonymous Techie
regards, Natasha