2012/2/16 Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@suse.com>:
On 02/16/2012 03:26 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:13:47 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
But you have drawn an incorrect comparison above. You have not allowed for that "member" who "places effort and time on openSUSE", nor that "contributor" who is interested in steering and voting.
I disagree. Nelson's suggesting that "Member" be a superset of "Contributor" which is a reasonable compromise.
I would say that Nelson's proposal can be interpreted either way (obviously):
- Member as being a superset of contributor, i.e. contributes technically and in governance issues.
or
- Member as being someone who contributes to governance issues only.
Robert, Maybe it's a language issue, thinking on Portuguese and typing in English might lead to that... my intention with that intervention has one goal: 1) Neutralize the potential confusion between 'non-voting members' and 'voting members'. Given the current rules, everyone who contributes activelly can apply for membership, which is somehow a recognition for ones effort on improving openSUSE. If this this granted and labelled as 'contributor', then from that stage, those wanting to enroll in 'voting' or 'foundation' can for sure 'upgrade' it to member. A 'contribution' can be made in very different aspects, including translation, documentation, bug reports/fixes, code, marketing, ambassadorial work, etc.
Either way it is interpreted, it misses the heart of the matter.
What do we do with people that no longer contribute (technical or governance) but have done so at some point in the past?
Not my fight (as in, I have no interest in that... it's up for those who raise such questions to find a fix, my intervention was just to try to improve terminology that might become confusing on the med/long run).
The refined proposal suggests to move members that no longer contribute (technical or governance) to "honorary member" status based on a prescribed non contribution period of 2 years. For everyone else nothing changes.
We already have "contributor" status, although maybe not "officially/formally" recognized. Those that just want to contribute on a technical level can do just that and do not have to apply for membership. There's no change to today's practice.
Those that contribute and are interested in governance and making their voice heard in matters that get voted upon apply for membership. Once a member continue to do what you do w.r.t. contributions and make your voice count when there are governance issues that get decided via a vote. There's no change to today's practice.
Those that are members but have lost interest, time, or whatever, and no longer contribute for a period of 2 years become honorary members. This is a change to today's practice.
Robert
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