On Friday 31 July 2009 15:53:07 Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Lubos Lunak<l.lunak@suse.cz> wrote:
On Friday 31 of July 2009, Michael Loeffler wrote:
- we simplify the installation by one click for 2/3 of our users, according to question no. 11 in our last openSUSE survey [3] made in 11.0 time frame
I'm not aware of any other major distribution requiring this kind of decision during their installation - is there one?
It's been a while since I installed any other distros, but the "major" distros, we're probably unique here.
However - if we want to go down this route, shall we remove all other dialogs and choices that aren't found in other installers?
reductio ad adsurdum and actually the opposite of what is being suggested - you says we should remove all distinguishing features when actually defaulting to KDE would give us a huge distinguishing feature.
Some other observations I have with respect about this feature: - inviting people through blogs, web pages, mailing lists or twitter to vote has potential to set the credibility of the voting system at risk as people not involved with openSUSE or not using openSUSE express their thoughts
:-/ ... no way to prevent that, though, and where does one set the limit of who still is worthy voting and who is not?
Sure there is. I'm not convinced that voting should be open to any and all.
We had a jump in registered users following this feature of more than 200 users, which means to me a bunch of people who may not have had an interest in participating in openSUSE decision making have suddenly taken an interest in one feature.
Now -- if this means we have >200 potential contribnailing our colouutors who are going to remain involved, great! If it means we have >200 people who just want to say "+1 KDE" and then go back to being not involved, not so good.
This is speculation, to which I hold up 2 counterpoints: * If the vote did not require registration you would have a point. Normally it's hard enough to get upstream people to join on bugzilla.novell.com bug reports or register at the build service to be able to use osc to check out our patches, because of the dreaded 'Novell Account'. This is well-known. * You neglect another possibility between the binary alternatives of 200 opensuse contributors and 200 KDE fanbois voting. What if some of those 200 votes were existing openSUSE users who have not bothered to participate thus far, but now have been shown an issue which they really care about. For a lot of users the desktop is the distro and actually hoisting a flag may empower existing users to become active contributors. Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org