It must cold in hell today because I am going to say something bad about opensuse and on top of that I'm going to say something good about Ubuntu. so please forgive me. opensuse is what would have been 4 years ago the "inside" version of what SuSE was producing and although the SuSE team occasionally let a bug or two past the release testing, most releases through 9.x, where the best to be had. With opensuse10.x , YOU has been trashed for a Redcarpet\YOU hybrid and we can't seem to get a stable update system, but when we do it will be the best available. we can't kid anyone this is a developers version as for SLED, it runs and updates with rock solid performance , for that I'm willing to pay. Ubuntu LTS is free, stable and has; "The Ubuntu software repository contains thousands of software packages organised into five 'components', on the basis of the level of support we can offer them, and whether or not they comply with our Free Software Philosophy. The components are called "main", "restricted", "universe", "multiverse" and commercial." as well as the fairly stable "update manager" system. However, comparisons of Ubuntu LTS and openSUSE are an apples to oranges comparison and is what I think both Justin and Ted mean by their comments. When you write and ask for a copy of Ubuntu they send the latest release not the LTS. When you go to download, all the pointers start with the latest release, not the LTS. How many versions are there between 6.06 and 7.04 , sounds to me like the billionare is giving away what Novell MUST sell to stay alive, can you say "Microsoft school of marketing". -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Novell CNE 3\4\5 CLE \ NCE in training. http://en.opensuse.org/education --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org