On 5/29/23 16:58, Wouter Onebekend wrote:
Hello,
combined with the fact the original thread was off topic for the factory list, we decided the simplest solution for now was to put the whole list under moderation and once the board has worked through the complaints and decided which individuals should be placed under moderation for a period of time or just warned about there behavior the lists will go back to an "unmoderated" state other then for the specific members that the board may or may not decide to place under moderation.
Yeah. The process outlined in these two my main gripe. The decision rests with the board which is on one side of the political dividing line that runs through this community. There is no balance of powers. The board is not accountable and there is no oversight beyond the board. Who watches the watchers?
At the end of the day the answer here is the community, for better or worse, if they start disagreeing with how the board is handling certain issues then they will vote in a new board. In my mind this is the least worst solution I can think of. Mailing lists are also a bit special because the moderation is less well setup because it hasn't often been a massive issue. On the Forums / Discord etc then normally it is the moderators making decisions and if someone doesn't like it then it goes to the board for a second opinion. As a project we also have community voting mechanisms so if the community was 50-50 on changing the CoC then we could have a vote of members on that. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B