On 05/07/18 01:48, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 04.07.2018 09:04, Simon Lees wrote:
On 03/07/18 21:54, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On 03.07.2018 13:21, Simon Lees wrote:
On 03/07/18 19:55, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On 03.07.2018 06:33, Simon Lees wrote:
So yes it makes sense for openSUSE to have its own bank account and openSUSE already has the power to do this without needing to ask SUSE.
Interesting, how so?
Well we can create an account but we can't make SUSE put money in it,
Who is this "we" you talk about? You and?
The openSUSE board acting as the people responsible for the projects finances.
Are you seriously suggesting that you want to propose to handle openSUSE donation on a private bank account of yours? I hope not :-)
Nope most certainly not :-)
rather then wanting to move all our trademarks / Intellectual Property away from SUSE, currently they are doing a good job looking after that.
We don't have trademarks. SUSE has trademarks. Because there is no "we".
The board has been through this before, maybe it would make sense to invite some of the old board members to your discussions so we don't have to go through this again and again? :-)
We have a Richard who has been on the board for quite some time
I'm sure Richard has done his best to convey second hand what has happened, but as usual that is a lossy process.
The board has decided that if you or any previous board member would like to share your experiences with us on this topic you are more then welcome to join the first part of our next meeting
Gracious! ;-) When would that be?
I believe it will be at 10pm on Tuesday the 17th of July in the Timezone most SUSE people are in, I know it will be 5:30am on the 18th in ACST.
so we are not looking at those and are instead looking at some other possible alternatives.
Like? :-)
As Richard stated in his email, likely partnering with an existing foundation that provides services such as accepting / helping to manage money for open source projects.
Proving my point even from above even further, we have looked into SPI and some other umbrella orgs back then and talked to various people who where involved with them (back then) :-) There where some serious concerns about ownership of (physical) assets if I remember correctly. Maybe this changed. Have you reached out to friends of projects that are currently with SPI?
Yes so far from my research into SPI I share the same concerns, I haven't looked at other possible alternatives in the same detail yet partly because some don't list the same level of detail on there websites and also because i've only started looking into this in some spare time this week, which has also ended up being taken up with discussions about SUSE's ownership in various places. My personal initial gut feel on SPI is that if we partnered with them we would almost certainly continue operating the way we have been especially in regards to infrastructure like hardware where we ask for donations of physical hardware or purchase it with through SUSE rather then the SPI and the SPI would just be a fallback / plan B to use in cases where we need to work around cases where SUSE's budget is frozen. Whether other umbrella orgs would give us more freedom i'm still researching. And of course other then the board deciding that this is an issue that we need to look into and solve I haven't discussed any of this with the rest of the board yet they are also reading my opinion for the first time here. But in the next meeting I will hopefully have info on a larger range of orgs then just SPI. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B