* Carsten Hoyer <hoyer@mailbox.org> [07-03-20 05:51]:
Thank you, I was’t entirely sure what exactly was asked. Not voting it is then.
Regards
Carsten
Am 03.07.2020 um 11:41 schrieb Bernd Ritter <commel@gmail.com>:
Hi Carsten,
to be clear: there is any YES in the current voting process. If you don't want to sign the petition, simply don't vote (as it says in the mail).
Cheers,
Bernd
Am 03.07.20 um 10:26 schrieb Carsten Hoyer:
I should clarify my last sentence:
- Vote NO in regards to requesting a re-election of the Board. - Vote YES to express confidence in our current Board.
Regards
Carsten
Am 03.07.2020 um 08:20 schrieb Carsten Hoyer <hoyer@mailbox.org>:
Dear all
Whilst I am not a member sadly and not allowed to vote, I am a long- time user and I have some professional experience in governance, management and legal questions. I would like to let you know, if any of you wish to consider a non-member opinion whilst voting, that I respectfully disagree to the below.
The best for OpenSUSE would be to move on from the unprofessional infighting and baseless accusations, to continue working with the professional board we already have and focus on actual project questions and challenges that lie ahead.
It should be clear for everyone that the Board is not and shouldn't be a closed shop where individuals can only follow their personal agenda, it is a governance body, where some basic governance skills and abilities are required, as well as a professional manner. Given the style and content of messages and communication of a small number of ex-members of the Board, who whish to topple this current Board, those members are not suitable for a governance position and should never have been a Board member in the first place. The non-confidence vote seems to serve solely their own, personal agenda without any consideration that it may further damage the OpenSUSE project.
Please all keep in mind that we are not isolated - the outside world is following the trials and tribulations within the project and the fallout of continued infighting may be severe.
OpenSUSE will be stuck in the past if this continues, lose members and users, or, at least, not be able to efficiently manage the future challenges and to grow further.
Please vote "NO" at the non-confidence petition.
With kind regards
Carsten Hoyer
Am Freitag, den 03.07.2020, 00:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Boltz:
Hello,
Am Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2020, 09:47:18 CEST schrieb Stefan Seyfried:
(slightly OT, just mentioning it for people concerned...) Exactly for the reason you pointed out, I mentioned in my first response to Per that there's also the option to contact the election officials directly if someone doesn't want / dare to ask on the public ML for whatever reason.
Am 01.07.20 um 23:37 schrieb Christian Boltz: > Am Dienstag, 30. Juni 2020, 14:54:31 CEST schrieb Per Jessen: >> It worked with Chromium. > (Firefox on Tumbleweed worked fine for me. I use some ad and > tracker Note that you both have revealed your voting to the world now :-P Yes, I'm fully aware of that. [1] So what? ;-)
It should be obvious that the board's actions since the last election gave more than enough reasons to sign the non-confidence petition. Even if you read only half of the mails I had to write on this ML in this time, my opinion on this should be *very* clear.
I guess everybody has read Pierre's call for the No-Confidence Vote https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-03/msg00091.html which sums up what happened until then.
To make things even worse, there have been additional (diplomatically spoken) questionable mails by some board members with the intention to damage the kicked-out board member even more.
I'm still sure that resigning from the board in protest was the right thing to do [2] - and (sadly) the additional questionable mails confirmed my decision more than once.
So even if I hadn't written the previous mail, my voting would be easy to guess ;-)
As sad as it is - IMHO a full re-election with a clean restart would be the best for openSUSE.
Regards,
Christian Boltz
[1] And yes, I know that it's also possible to submit a blank vote, and even if I didn't do that - thanks to the election officials for allowing this so that "$person submitted a vote" does not necessarily mean "$person voted against the board".
[2] Since then, I can (literally!) sleep better again
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