On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Henne Vogelsang <hvogel@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hey,
On 26.02.2016 15:51, PatrickD Garvey wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:52 AM, Henne Vogelsang <hvogel@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 26.02.2016 14:09, PatrickD Garvey wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Henne Vogelsang <hvogel@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 26.02.2016 01:57, PatrickD Garvey wrote:
What did "Chris/Cornelius/Me" do at that time to publicize the existence of a "something for mentoring" effort?
The first time on this list Chris mentioned 101 in his call's for GSoC projects somewhat early February.
So, at least two months passed before further publicity was given to "101", which I take it is shorthand for http://101.openSUSE.org
Yes, so? :-)
Time that passes is irrecoverable.
Thank you Captain Obvious! ;-)
I agree "Time that passes is irrecoverable." should be obvious to anyone who has tried to make progress on anything. That's why I was puzzled that such a large block of time had passed with no obvious communication about what I saw as a valuable addition to the openSUSE project, a pointedly purposeful attempt to encourage mentored participation.
That is, shouldn't the planning for our GSoC effort take the time currently available to move forward in optimistic anticipation so we can take full advantage of the short, unyielding schedule of the passing of Summer?
GSoC won't happen if we are not selected as mentoring organization. Selection by Google happens next Monday 29 February 19:00 UTC. Once this we have taken this hurdle we (and the GSoC team in general) will actively seek for students for the projects.
Again, that seems to show a waiting for someone else to act. Time passes, whether it is effectively used or not. I hope some encouraging communication has already happened between the identified mentors and mentees. At least a "Thank you for your interest" email has been exchanged?
A lot more than friendly emails has happened. Students are actively working on issues together with their future would-be mentors.
Excellent.
Is it possible for the mentoring repository to be used for other efforts to grow the number of participants in the openSUSE project?
Yes we have specifically designed this so we can run other outreach programs through it. But first things first: GSoC :-)
So 101 is targeting only University level students found through already financed outreach programs?
No, why? It's for all mentoring that is going to happen @openSUSE in the future.
Good.
Maybe there are some people currently within the community who are seeking mentoring (without compensation)?
I'm sure there are.
Good to hear that's a shared opinion.
Wouldn't if be useful to move the projects identified forward with the work of a noobie?
They are.
Or are these projects to be left idle until the next outreach funding opportunity is available?
No. I'm beginning to wonder if you have looked at the page...
I thought I had and, you're right, this conversation has shown me I missed something. So I went back and reread the landing page of 101.openSUSE.org. Biased by my exchange with Ancor Gonzalez Sosa < https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2016-02/msg00147.html > I was operating under the mistaken understanding that GSoC was the focus of 101.openSUSE.org. I also missed expanding the link at the end of "Still not convinced this is right for you? Check out a more detailed description." which would have given me a deeper understanding of the context of this effort. I regret that relative to the FLOSS set of software development tools, I'm still working on getting to the first level. I have worked professionally with IBM System/360 Assembler, PL/I, JCL, EXEC, and AIX along with the CA Panvalet code library system, so I understand the software development process, just not the particular tools used in openSUSE. Thank you for your patience in guiding me to an understanding that the mentoring effort was not as limited as I first thought it was. I'm sorry it diverted you from other more valuable uses of your time. For me, it's back to climbing up to level 1. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org