Stephan Kulow wrote: [snip]
But at the end of it, all we proposing is a discussion of the future and just as you say, the openSUSE community has strengths and weaknesses and one of the latter is long term planning or general strategy discussions. Do you remember the last? I felt, it was a disaster.
So I don't think there is a good way to present to the project the idea that what we're doing is leading nowhere - to noone. Add to that Agustin's way of saying things and it feels like another disaster.
Well, like you said, there is no good way to say it. You and Agustin are on the same page here. We're not going anywhere, what are we going to do about it?
But the openSUSE team's duty towards SUSE is to make sure openSUSE is healthy and rocking - and for that we need to have a picture from time to time. We can't just keep having release, party, release, party, ...
Amen.
So there is more to this than "change". SUSE wants some things to happen within openSUSE, but just as Ralf said in the OSC13 keynote, SUSE does want the openSUSE to be in openSUSE's hands.
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