On Tue, 15 May 2012 15:46:26 +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
How do you think I learned about our infrastructure? How do you think I keep up with changes in our infrastructure? I constantly pick up tasks where I have no idea how to do them. Then I sit down and figure out how to do them. I try things, read things, I nag my peers about help, I get on peoples nerves about details and I make lots of mistakes. In short: I do something about it.
That's what I'm trying to tell you. You have to take your contribution into your own hands, you can't rely on someone else to teach or do something for you. Do it yourself.
The thing is, different people learn in different ways. Some (like you and I) don't have a problem with just diving in and trying to help. Others prefer to receive guidance. I think it's also important to be organised so there isn't a duplication of effort, and in some cases (such as processing bug reports), consistency in method is important for the developers so they know what to expect (knowing what to expect means less work, as there's less time to figure out how the bug got to them). But you're right that identifying the problem isn't sufficient - problem identification is only part of the puzzle. There also needs to be an effort to solve it. Given that what jdd is talking about is a training issue, and part of my background is in training, I'm happy to try to take that on in my spare time. I'll start a separate discussion later today to get the ball rolling. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org