Hello Will and Roberto, thanks for the comments. Quoting Will's message 03/09/08 00:06 +0900:
Make sure you have the hd partitioned with a 50mb HFS (not HFS+) boot partition.
OK. I have a 32MB boot partition for MacOS. With System 7.6.1 HFS+ is not supported.
Also make sure all the boot files are in the correct folders. Should have it in the read me which I'm sure you have already memorized.
That file was actually not detailed enough, and i found other information that complemented it, such as in the file "Installation of BootX" where it sayd, "A ramdisk must be loaded to start the installation process. This can be activated in the options menu. It is important to be sure the correct ramdisk file is specified. The correct boot parameters are: root=/dev/fd0 ramdisk_size=128000". I have no idea what the "correct ramdisk file" would be, however, and entering the parameters does not appear to make any difference to the failure.
Here are a couple of links the might give you some other trouble shooting tips:
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http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/yellowdog-general/September01/ 0341.html
There i found the following:
Several people seem to have suggested that you disable the BootX extension and use the BootX application to start Linux after booting MacOS."
I actually tried that, but the application just quit. :-)
http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/yellowdog-general/September01/ 0342.html
There i found this:
With olderMacOS versions, 7.5.3 and 7.6, what cured the problem was updating the HD drivers using the latest version of Drive Setup. Are you using a non-Apple disk utility?
The drive is a 20GB Fujitsue drive that Apple's Drive Setup does not recognise. The following partitions are currently installed: 32MB MacOS boot, 768MB MacOS, 256MB UNIX, 1.4GB UNIX, remainder MacOS. The HD's driver is from FWB, and the partition table was made with "pdisk", a command line driven partitioning utility that i got from the MkLinux website. Is any of this known to be a problem?
Ps. Yellow Dog has lot's of good general support info on their site, especially since they specialize in PPC, and specifically Apple hardware.
Maybe i should be going with Yellow Dog rather than with SuSE? Problem is i don't have a CD burner and did not find any information on the YD site about online installation, i.e., via FTP. With SuSE, ther is a file "readme_ftpinstall.txt" that contains the following information: Oldworld: - download the files install-oldworld BootX_1.2.2.sit.bin - extract BootX_1.2.2.sit.bin, a new folder "BootX" appears - copy the file install-oldworld into the folder "Linux Kernels" in "BootX" - start BootX App - select the entry "install-oldworld" in the kernel menu - disable the checkbox "No video driver", it should only be active if you have trouble with your third party video card. - click on Linux, this will start the Linux kernel - everything went fine when a penguin appears after a few seconds. The command "click on Linux" makes the BootX application quit. * * * Quoting Roberto's message to Will:
I know this is a SuSE List and i mean no disrespect to SuSE or any of its engineers. On older Macs like the 7300, Yellowdog Linux is a better distribution and has support for much more of the hardware. You may want to give that one a try. YDL is just in terms of performance and smooth installation than SuSE on that type of hardware. SuSE does work much better on the 8600 and up.
If there is an FTP install option for YD, i surely would want to try it. Thanks to both of you... Regards: Hendrik --
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, at 07:29 PM, Hendrik wrote:
OK. I have a 32MB boot partition for MacOS. With System 7.6.1 HFS+ is not supported.
Guess that eliminates that potential problem.
Also make sure all the boot files are in the correct folders. Should have it in the read me which I'm sure you have already memorized.
That file was actually not detailed enough, and i found other information that complemented it, such as in the file "Installation of BootX" where it sayd, "A ramdisk must be loaded to start the installation process. This can be activated in the options menu. It is important to be sure the correct ramdisk file is specified. The correct boot parameters are: root=/dev/fd0 ramdisk_size=128000". I have no idea what the "correct ramdisk file" would be, however, and entering the parameters does not appear to make any difference to the failure.
The drive is a 20GB Fujitsue drive that Apple's Drive Setup does not recognise. The following partitions are currently installed: 32MB MacOS boot, 768MB MacOS, 256MB UNIX, 1.4GB UNIX, remainder MacOS. The HD's driver is from FWB, and the partition table was made with "pdisk", a command line driven partitioning utility that i got from the MkLinux website.\
Is any of this known to be a problem?
I use FBW disk partitioners and don't recall a problem with them the last time I installed on an old world machine. But, Under the mac partitioner, whichever one you use, I think your supposed to partition one (the first one) as unallocated and the come back in with the linux install disk and partition the unallocated space. It's laid out fairly well in the ydl pdf. I think the SuSE 7.x manual does a more detailed job of explaining the options.
The command "click on Linux" makes the BootX application quit.
There is a pdf on the ydl site that has a good tutorial on the bootx and yaboot setup. http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/installation/ It's a link to the pdf and I found it to be quite useful and easy to understand based on past install experiences. As with above, the SuSE manual is more detailed.
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Quoting Roberto's message to Will:
I know this is a SuSE List and i mean no disrespect to SuSE or any of its engineers. On older Macs like the 7300, Yellowdog Linux is a better distribution and has support for much more of the hardware. You may want to give that one a try. YDL is just in terms of performance and smooth installation than SuSE on that type of hardware. SuSE does work much better on the 8600 and up.
If there is an FTP install option for YD, i surely would want to try it.
Here's a close link to a linux ftp site. I didn't see ydl on it but they did have some readme's and such that might be helpful. ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/Linux/ Here they seem to have something you might install on ftp: ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/yellowdog/ On this site they seem to have all the necessary files to do an ftp install. I wouldn't know how to go about doing it though. Maybe Roberto has something for both of us to learn.
Thanks to both of you...
Regards: Hendrik
Just follow the set up again if you need to. I know that when I couldn't get a new install to boot or install it's because I overlooked something or didn't place a file in the right place. It's been a while since I've installed on PPC so I'm a little rusty. Now getting it to reboot on it's own later is another story :-) I hope any of this helps. I'm starting to feel like I'm wasting your time. :-( will
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