The keymaps for 6.4 X11 are broken and the downloads for updating are gone . I am of course switiching over to yellow dog linux and praying for the best , thanks for the advice . I had this problem solved long ago whewn the downloads existed online , I am gonna call up suse and see if they can mail me the old upgrades fer a fee , I still like 6.4 it works on the old suckers . Well thats it for me fellow suse ppc , wish me luck with yellow dog . me :) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com