I am in a tangle... I am trying to install 7.3 which finally arrived two days ago. I want to do a fresh installation, but the computer used to run 7.0 without many problems. It is an old world computer - an old PowerBase 180 with a PowerLogix G3 card, which I install using an external CD-R drive, as the internal one seems to have gone in the way of old CD-Roms... Anyway, I boot into MacOS, get into the BootX app, select the ramdisk image, select a kernel - and it goes into linux, but stops the boot process after finding the CD-R drive. It says something like "CD-Rom drive 3.2", and stops working. That's the basic problem. To add a problem to my problems, however, I booted it once in this way, but selected by mistake the old vmlinux from the 7.0 system. This time it booted well and started the installation process - including formatting my root partition (as I said, I wanted a fresh installation). However, when it was time to boot into the new system and continuing with CD-2, it failed. It went into linuxrc, and then the screen went blank, and nothing further happened, not even a disk spin. So, currently I'm in a state where I don't have a system at all (except MacOS, which doesn't help me, I use this server mainly for PHP development). I find it hard to believe that the 2.4 kernel doesn't support a CD-R that was supported by 2.2. Remember, although this machine is rather odd (Mac clone, CPU card, external CD-R), this whole shebang worked in the past. Herouth -- EMAIL: herouth@netvision.net.il HOME PAGE: http://www.herouth.f2s.com/
It seems that the problem had something to do with the SCSI ID of the CD-R. Now it boots into the installer, or rather, into linuxrc, which asks for the language and keyboard, but then, when I want to install, and I say "from CD", it doesn't recognize the CD-R. At first I thought this was because the CD-R was one of two CD drives in the machine (the old internal one was still there, although not really functional). So I opened the machine, and removed the I/O and the power cables from the internal CD/R. Tried again. Same thing - the CD-R is not recognized. So... Help! Herouth -- EMAIL: herouth@netvision.net.il HOME PAGE: http://www.herouth.f2s.com/
On Sat, Jan 12, Herouth Maoz wrote:
I am in a tangle...
I am trying to install 7.3 which finally arrived two days ago. I want to do a fresh installation, but the computer used to run 7.0 without many problems.
It is an old world computer - an old PowerBase 180 with a PowerLogix G3 card, which I install using an external CD-R drive, as the internal one seems to have gone in the way of old CD-Roms...
Anyway, I boot into MacOS, get into the BootX app, select the ramdisk image, select a kernel - and it goes into linux, but stops the boot process after finding the CD-R drive. It says something like "CD-Rom drive 3.2", and stops working.
That's the basic problem.
To add a problem to my problems, however, I booted it once in this way, but selected by mistake the old vmlinux from the 7.0 system. This time it booted well and started the installation process - including formatting my root partition (as I said, I wanted a fresh installation). However, when it was time to boot into the new system and continuing with CD-2, it failed. It went into linuxrc, and then the screen went blank, and nothing further happened, not even a disk spin.
So, currently I'm in a state where I don't have a system at all (except MacOS, which doesn't help me, I use this server mainly for PHP development).
I find it hard to believe that the 2.4 kernel doesn't support a CD-R that was supported by 2.2. Remember, although this machine is rather odd (Mac clone, CPU card, external CD-R), this whole shebang worked in the past.
There are some bugs in the mesh scsi driver, it hangs as example whtn you have no dick in the CD drive and try to access the drive via pdisk -l or mount. It doesnt lead to a crash, but the process hangs. So the bug that you see might be related to that. Can you try the 2.4.2 kernel? ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/kernel/2.4.2/vmlinux-2.4.2-11.gz ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/kernel/2.4.2/ramdisk.image.deflt.gz I think that worked fine and the hangs appeared in 2.4.5 or later. In linuxrc, there a menu entry 'sysinfo - kernel messages', does it show any scsi errors or something strange? Gruss Olaf -- $ man clone BUGS Main feature not yet implemented...
At 22:02 +0100 on 22/1/2002, Olaf Hering wrote:
Can you try the 2.4.2 kernel?
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/kernel/2.4.2/vmlinux-2.4.2-11.gz ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/kernel/2.4.2/ramdisk.image.deflt.gz
I think that worked fine and the hangs appeared in 2.4.5 or later.
Yes, it boots fine.
In linuxrc, there a menu entry 'sysinfo - kernel messages', does it show any scsi errors or something strange?
Well, I can get into linuxrc only in 2.4.2, not in the later kernels. And in 2.4.2, there is nothing strange about the SCSI part. So, do you suggest that I install and run 7.3 with the 2.4.2 kernel, or wait until 2.4.16 is fixed? Thanks, Herouth -- EMAIL: herouth@netvision.net.il HOME PAGE: http://www.herouth.f2s.com/
On Thu, Jan 24, Herouth Maoz wrote:
At 22:02 +0100 on 22/1/2002, Olaf Hering wrote:
Can you try the 2.4.2 kernel?
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/kernel/2.4.2/vmlinux-2.4.2-11.gz ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/kernel/2.4.2/ramdisk.image.deflt.gz
I think that worked fine and the hangs appeared in 2.4.5 or later.
Yes, it boots fine.
Ok.
In linuxrc, there a menu entry 'sysinfo - kernel messages', does it show any scsi errors or something strange?
Well, I can get into linuxrc only in 2.4.2, not in the later kernels. And in 2.4.2, there is nothing strange about the SCSI part.
So, do you suggest that I install and run 7.3 with the 2.4.2 kernel, or wait until 2.4.16 is fixed?
Yes, I will see how to fix the hangs on my old macs here. You can try a newer kernel once that bug is fixed. Gruss Olaf -- $ man clone BUGS Main feature not yet implemented...
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