[opensuse-ppc] opensuse 11.1 on ps3 not found after install

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Joachim Banzhaf

13 Jan 2009 13 Jan '09

19:00

Hi list, I want to report an installation error and hope you can tell me whats wrong or how to investigate. The problem is, that after an install from the 11.1 ppc full dvd the boot manager does not show this os. What I did: - buy new ps3 with 80gb hdd (in germany, the Little Big Planet bundle - in case that matters) - upgrade to latest firmware (I guess it was 2.53 - whatever you got last week of 2008). - backup files to usb hdd, repartition (10gb for other os), restore files. - download install dvd, check md5 and burn it with k3b - install bootloader and reboot to otheros - do yast install (dont remember exact settings I selected, but usually I add kernel compile tools and use lvm and kde) Now the install begins. I can see the packages get installed - but since this runs very long, I leave. When I get back I see the bootloader, but only with the option to boot from dvd :-( I know my way round in linux on x86, shells and grub, but this uses a different bootmanager, so I dont know where to look for logs. Can you get me on track? Joachim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+help@opensuse.org

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Mick Charles Beaver

13 Jan 13 Jan

19:22

Joachim, Just to verify, take a look at your boot loader screen. You should have a hard disk icon on the left of the boot loader that you can navigate to using your keyboard error keys. If you have the install disc in your drive, you should also see a disc icon. What do you see? Here is a screenshot from an Ubuntu install that shows both the hard disk and BD disc icons on the top left. The disc icon is highlighted. http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/604/petitbootscreenshot2rj1.png -Mick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+help@opensuse.org

Joachim Banzhaf

14 Jan 14 Jan

03:01

Hi Mick, Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 20:22:18 schrieb Mick Charles Beaver:

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Joachim,

Just to verify, take a look at your boot loader screen. You should have a hard disk icon on the left of the boot loader that you can navigate to using your keyboard error keys. If you have the install disc in your drive, you should also see a disc icon.

What do you see?

Thanks for your response. I cannot see the hd icon. Dont know how to create a screenshot of this, so I'll describe it: On the left side there is only a symbolic console (black rectangle with white prompt). On the right a menu entry "reboot to game os" is shown. When I insert the install dvd, the left side also shows a dvd icon. When it is selected, the right shows entries for install and rescue system Looks like the hd partition is not found by petitboot? Maybe I really have installed on lvm and petitboot cannot recognize this? Where would petitboot or install log their error messages? Regards, Joachim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+help@opensuse.org

Mick Charles Beaver

04:22

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Looks like the hd partition is not found by petitboot? Maybe I really have installed on lvm and petitboot cannot recognize this?

I'm new to PPC/PS3 Linux myself, so I'm not sure. I can tell you that I did not use LVM, so maybe that is the problem.

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Where would petitboot or install log their error messages?

The source distribution didn't have any documentation. If you don't want to reinstall without using LVM, you could try and debug with the network-enabled version of petitboot (downloadable from the petitboot web site). -Mick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+help@opensuse.org

Joachim Banzhaf

08:18

Hi Mick, Am Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2009 05:22:17 schrieb Mick Charles Beaver:

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Looks like the hd partition is not found by petitboot? Maybe I really have installed on lvm and petitboot cannot recognize this?

I'm new to PPC/PS3 Linux myself, so I'm not sure. I can tell you that I did not use LVM, so maybe that is the problem.

Yes, this was it. I booted the rescue system from dvd yesterday and found the entire system on the harddisk. Only the bootmanager could not find it :-(

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Where would petitboot or install log their error messages?

The source distribution didn't have any documentation. If you don't want to reinstall without using LVM, you could try and debug with the network-enabled version of petitboot (downloadable from the petitboot web site).

Previous config was ps3da1 = /boot, ps3da2 = vg system with rootfs in an lv. Petitboot obviously cannot handle this. I reinstalled last night with no separate /boot, ps3da1 = 0.5GB ext3 root filesystem and ps3da2 = vg system with only usr, opt, var, tmp, home and swap lv's. This worked. Now I am waiting since more than 30 min for the kde 4.1 desktop to become operable so I can shut it down cleanly and uninstall it again. It obviously uses way too much memory. Will see if the other standard opensuse window managers gnome, kde 3.5 or xfce do better. Regards, Joachim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+help@opensuse.org

Stefan Assmann

08:40

Joachim Banzhaf wrote:

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Hi Mick,

Am Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2009 05:22:17 schrieb Mick Charles Beaver:

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Looks like the hd partition is not found by petitboot? Maybe I really have installed on lvm and petitboot cannot recognize this? I'm new to PPC/PS3 Linux myself, so I'm not sure. I can tell you that I did not use LVM, so maybe that is the problem.

Yes, this was it. I booted the rescue system from dvd yesterday and found the entire system on the harddisk. Only the bootmanager could not find it :-(

Sorry to say but petitboot hasn't got support to handle lvm and I don't assume that this is going to happen soon. One thing you might try if you really want to work with lvm is having a separate non-lvm /boot partition. Though I haven't tried this myself I guess that should work and be sure to use petitboot provided with the installation media. In case you encounter and solve any problems it would be nice if you would share your experiences on http://en.opensuse.org/PS3 so everybody can benefit from it.

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Where would petitboot or install log their error messages? The source distribution didn't have any documentation. If you don't want to reinstall without using LVM, you could try and debug with the network-enabled version of petitboot (downloadable from the petitboot web site).

Previous config was ps3da1 = /boot, ps3da2 = vg system with rootfs in an lv. Petitboot obviously cannot handle this. I reinstalled last night with no separate /boot, ps3da1 = 0.5GB ext3 root filesystem and ps3da2 = vg system with only usr, opt, var, tmp, home and swap lv's. This worked.

Now I am waiting since more than 30 min for the kde 4.1 desktop to become operable so I can shut it down cleanly and uninstall it again. It obviously uses way too much memory. Will see if the other standard opensuse window managers gnome, kde 3.5 or xfce do better.

Regards,

Joachim

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Thomas Nielsen

08:20

Hi Sorry to mengle in without any competence at all (don't expect too much from my email-addr :-) I am not in the SuSE team. But I did insist a LOT to have OpenSUSE 11.1 installed on my PS3, and I experienced the same symptoms as you (and many others :-) But now it is up and running - next challenge is to get the codecs etc to play :-) Here is what I saw: 1st lesson learned - do not change anything in the software selection during the install change afterwards. You will loose the image install, and waste a lot of time. 2nd when you change the proposed partitioning, install disables image install - simply re-enable it to gain time. 3rd do not leave the PS3 to itself while installing - here might be you main problem, it will go to sleep in the middle of the install(!!) and if left asleep too long time, it will reboot, and come back up incomplete. Monitor the install, and if it seems "stuck" in the middle of copying a package or in the middle of installing it, simply touch the mouse, or a key on the keyboard, and you should see it continue. 4th have a look here for memory optimization once installed: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-ps3-1/?S_TACT=105AGX59&S_CMP=GR (Even though he does not mention OpenSUSE grrrrrr :-/ hope this helps :-) Thomas

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On 1/14/2009 at 5:22 AM, in message , "Mick Charles Beaver" wrote:

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Looks like the hd partition is not found by petitboot? Maybe I really have installed on lvm and petitboot cannot recognize this?

I'm new to PPC/PS3 Linux myself, so I'm not sure. I can tell you that I did not use LVM, so maybe that is the problem.

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Where would petitboot or install log their error messages?

Joachim Banzhaf

08:38

Hi Thomas, Am Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2009 09:20:16 schrieb Thomas Nielsen:

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Hi Sorry to mengle in without any competence at all (don't expect too much from my email-addr :-) I am not in the SuSE team. But I did insist a LOT to have OpenSUSE 11.1 installed on my PS3, and I experienced the same symptoms as you (and many others :-) But now it is up and running - next challenge is to get the codecs etc to play :-)

Here is what I saw: 1st lesson learned - do not change anything in the software selection during the install change afterwards. You will loose the image install, and waste a lot of time. 2nd when you change the proposed partitioning, install disables image install - simply re-enable it to gain time. 3rd do not leave the PS3 to itself while installing - here might be you main problem, it will go to sleep in the middle of the install(!!) and if left asleep too long time, it will reboot, and come back up incomplete. Monitor the install, and if it seems "stuck" in the middle of copying a package or in the middle of installing it, simply touch the mouse, or a key on the keyboard, and you should see it continue. 4th have a look here for memory optimization once installed: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-ps3-1/?S_TACT=105AG X59&S_CMP=GR (Even though he does not mention OpenSUSE grrrrrr :-/

hope this helps :-) Thomas

thanks for sharing your experience. I never heard of image install. maybe I'll try next time, but I hate loosing lvm features (like moving pv blocks to external storage in preparation for repartitioning). Btw. what windowmanager are you using? Regards, Joachim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+help@opensuse.org

Thomas Nielsen

09:32

Btw. what windowmanager are you using? hehe Thank you for asking i am trying to make KDE4.1 reasonable in terms of memory. I really advise to go get a few tips on the IBM link I sent before: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-ps3-1/?S_TACT=105AGX59&S_CMP=GR Then stop all deamons you don't use: I did not spend a lot of time on it yet, but the updater can go klipper, postfix Limit the number of terminals in /etc/inittab you will then have the desktop and for ex firefox running without touching the disc. Still looking for ways to limit memory - any ideas welcome - What about the special PS3 kernel someone maintains on kernel.org?? Thomas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+help@opensuse.org

Stefan Assmann

09:41

Thomas Nielsen wrote:

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Btw. what windowmanager are you using? hehe Thank you for asking i am trying to make KDE4.1 reasonable in terms of memory. I really advise to go get a few tips on the IBM link I sent before: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-ps3-1/?S_TACT=105AGX59&S_CMP=GR Then stop all deamons you don't use: I did not spend a lot of time on it yet, but the updater can go klipper, postfix Limit the number of terminals in /etc/inittab you will then have the desktop and for ex firefox running without touching the disc. Still looking for ways to limit memory - any ideas welcome - What about the special PS3 kernel someone maintains on kernel.org??

There's nothing that magically can increase your amount of memory. We already have the ps3vram driver in our kernel that gains an extra 250MB of swap. That's the best you can get so far. KDE4 is not exactly ressource friendly in terms of memory. As you said, the best you can do is disable all kinds of services you won't need.

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Stefan Assmann

08:46

Thomas Nielsen wrote:

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Hi Sorry to mengle in without any competence at all (don't expect too much from my email-addr :-) I am not in the SuSE team. But I did insist a LOT to have OpenSUSE 11.1 installed on my PS3, and I experienced the same symptoms as you (and many others :-) But now it is up and running - next challenge is to get the codecs etc to play :-)

Here is what I saw: 1st lesson learned - do not change anything in the software selection during the install change afterwards. You will loose the image install, and waste a lot of time. 2nd when you change the proposed partitioning, install disables image install - simply re-enable it to gain time. 3rd do not leave the PS3 to itself while installing - here might be you main problem, it will go to sleep in the middle of the install(!!) and if left asleep too long time, it will reboot, and come back up incomplete. Monitor the install, and if it seems "stuck" in the middle of copying a package or in the middle of installing it, simply touch the mouse, or a key on the keyboard, and you should see it continue.

I don't think this is correct in that way. PS3 can't go to sleep during installation, the only thing that's going to happen is that the screen gets black and that won't interfere with the installation process at all. However I've seen a lot of bad dvd media reports, so if anything goes wrong during package installation it's likely to be a media issue.

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4th have a look here for memory optimization once installed: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-ps3-1/?S_TACT=105AGX59&S_CMP=GR (Even though he does not mention OpenSUSE grrrrrr :-/

hope this helps :-) Thomas

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On 1/14/2009 at 5:22 AM, in message , "Mick Charles Beaver" wrote:

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Looks like the hd partition is not found by petitboot? Maybe I really have installed on lvm and petitboot cannot recognize this?

I'm new to PPC/PS3 Linux myself, so I'm not sure. I can tell you that I did not use LVM, so maybe that is the problem.

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Where would petitboot or install log their error messages?

The source distribution didn't have any documentation. If you don't want to reinstall without using LVM, you could try and debug with the network-enabled version of petitboot (downloadable from the petitboot web site).

-Mick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ppc+help@opensuse.org

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