Hi everyone, I have an iMac DV special edition at home. I have bought Suse Linux 6.4 for the PPC thinking I could install Linux for the MAC. I am a seasoned Linux User on the Intel Platform. But oh what shock and oh what a Shame this Suse is. I followed the instructions to the letter in the manual , in the Readme file and on their support Website. Yaboot does not boot, I get a lot of Lost Interrupt Messages while booting off the CD, takes a mighty long time to detect my hardware , takes an even longer time to load the image into the virtual RAM and wham hangs the system. Even Windoze is better at installation than Suse. To make matters worse, on their support Website at http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/rschmid_ppc_installation.html there is an instruction that the following file should be download: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/update/BETA/kernel/k_pmac-2.2.16-14.ppc.rpm click on the link and what do you get: No such file or directory. Isn't it great!!!! Keep it up Suse!!!! May be I being a technical journalist myself should publish this great news to all the LUGs and also in technical magazines that there do exist blacksheep like Suse even in the fascinating world of Linux. We are all paying customers and Suse better learn to honor its commitments to us. I do hope Suse will take note of this message seriously and solve my problems. By the way, I live in Singapore. Suse has a long way to go before it can be classified as a major distribution. I even have Suse 6.3 for Intel (This came with a magazine) and I have problems installing that.... my video card Trident 9660 is not recoginized. Suse better learn from distributions like RedHat and Mandrake on what it takes to be a leader and a major distribution. Hope Suse will take care of my problem. God alone save Suse. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
On Fri, Oct 20, micheal david wrote:
I have an iMac DV special edition at home. I have bought Suse Linux 6.4 for the PPC thinking I could install Linux for the MAC. I am a seasoned Linux User on the Intel Platform. But oh what shock and oh what a Shame this Suse is. I followed the instructions to the letter in the manual , in the Readme file and on their support Website. Yaboot does not boot, I get a lot of Lost Interrupt Messages while booting off the CD, takes a mighty long time to detect my hardware , takes an even longer time to load the image into the virtual RAM and wham hangs the system. Even Windoze is better at installation than Suse. To make matters worse, on their support Website at
Your Mac is newer than our 6.4, so what?
http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/rschmid_ppc_installation.html
there is an instruction that the following file should be download:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/update/BETA/kernel/k_pmac-2.2.16-14.ppc.rpm click on the link and what do you get: No such file or directory.
Fixed. ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/ppc/update/BETA/kernel/vmlinux.pmac.gz
Isn't it great!!!! Keep it up Suse!!!!
Yeah, we do. Gruss Olaf -- $ man clone BUGS Main feature not yet implemented...
on 10/20/00 9:36 AM, micheal david at micheal_david@hotmail.com wrote:
We are all paying customers and Suse better learn to honor its commitments to us.
I do hope Suse will take note of this message seriously and solve my problems.
I agree. I bought Suse because it was the only distribution that existed for both PPC and Intel. I'm working with another fellow on a project. He has an Intel machine and mine is PPC. He had little trouble installing his. I've had mine for almost a month now and still don't have it installed. 60 day free installation support - yeah right. I was teaching the tech support people stuff. And they finally gave up. I'm a software developer with a degree in Computer & Electrical Engineering - and I'm a "practical" engineer with plenty of common sense, not a "book" engineer. Here's my problem. If anyone is willing/able to fix it, I will surely write a glowing response and thank you anywhere they'd like. Otherwise, I'm about fed up with Suse and the "paid for distributions" - I'll go to Linux PPC and just download the CD image (which BTW, Suse doesn't have for 6.4) next time - at least that way if it doesn't work I haven't thrown any money away. I have a beige G3/300 tower with the Build-to-order UltraSCSI card in it and a 4.5 GB UltraSCSI drive. (the card is manufactured by ATTO). I have also put in a 9GB Seagate ST39140A IDE drive. Suse simply will not recognize the Seagate drive. What do I mean by recognize? If I used bootx, the drive wouldn't appear during the boot process in the devices identified. The bus with the CDROM would appear and the interrupt number would appear, but not for the bus with the IDE drive on it. My G3 was a Rev A, which meant I could only use Master drives on the IDE busses - that was fine, I had the CDROM on one bus, the IDE Drive on the other. I tried every combination/configuration possible, to no avail. I upgraded to the Rev C Rom, which allowed slave drives on the IDE busses. Still no luck. No combination of busses, drives, master/slave settings would get Suse to recognize the IDE drive. I borrowed a 6GB Western Digital and a 4GB Maxtor from a friend. If I set them up correctly (they wouldn't work in just any master/slave configuration), I could get Suse to recognize each drive, but still not mine. The only way I could get Suse to recognize my drive was if I used miboot. Which is designed for a linux only system, not a dual boot, which is what I want, so miboot isn't really an option. And don't suggest yaboot - it won't run on my system since I don't have OpenFirmware. I even tried the 2.2.16 kernel. That was worse, it just locked up after printing the initial information, before the penguin appeared. Linux has the advantage that it's "free", but that's it. I don't care what the Linux community thinks, it will never be a mainstream consumer OS unless there are some real changes in the way development, distribution and support are handled. Sorry for the rant, but I just had to get this off my chest. I'd be more than happy to talk to anyone who feels they have a legitimate solution to this specific installation problem. ----------------------------- Robert G. Palmer, Jr. robertpalmerjr@mac.com
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micheal david
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Robert G Palmer Jr