Olaf Hering wrote:

On Fri, Dec 28, Jochen Busch wrote:

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Although the thing Iam interested in is somewhat multimedia stuff, it depends totaly of the PPC behaviour, and therefore I think belongs to be questioned here. Please dont blame me if you dont think so..

At the Moment I use Suse7.1, soon 7.3. I would like to escape from Mac proprietary PCI Hardware, and I did not find yet an Answer to this question: Would PCI Stuff work under Linux in my PPC when it is prooved (eg by Suse Hardware database) to work under Linux on an Intel System? e.g. a TV card with videotext and audio/video capturing features.. ? (the only card available (in Europe) for PPC seems to be the Formac ProTV, with very poor Video Performance and bad (scratchy) audio features, I owned that thing and I am giving it back to my dealer) or (since the new Powermacs come without a Sound in connector) a Card with Sound Input?

The cards should work in theory. Most network cards can be used. graphic cards for intel do not work, they need to be initialized on bootup from the Firmware or the PC BIOS. This is done with the graphics card BIOS, the Mac can not execute the PC code.

I'm not sure if a WinTV card, as example, can be used on ppc. The drivers have to be endian clean. It did not work with 2.2 kernels and 2.4.2.

Gruss Olaf

-- $ man clone

BUGS Main feature not yet implemented...

I was told some time ago that the DXr2 cards (MPEG 2decoders) need their 'BIOS Driver' loaded from the OS. Therefore in linux the driver (i haven't looked into the code) loads some soft-firmware ;-) in the card before it can start playing baxk your DVDs. Therefore i guess that (modulo endianess problems) these cards should work on our Macs. Anyone with a DXR2 ? cheers -- John

Been thinking for a LONG time that the cards should include thier driver software on thier EEPROMs, then all you need is a forth interpreter on the mobo EEPROM to execute the code, and bring the card online. when you OS has loaded it can load in a BETTER/NATIVE driver. this is realy nothing new. SUN EEPROMs execute forth, all we need is a standard library for the drivers to conform to. robin-david hammond "One cannot guess the real difficulties of a problem before having solved it." -- Carl Ludwig Siegel On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Schlomo Schapiro wrote:

To: John Pagonis Subject: Re: [suse-ppc] PCI Cards designed for Windows under Linux on a PPC? Cc: suse-ppc@suse.com

Hi,

I am using an Intel 100 and a BT848 card in my G4/733. works like a charm and out of the box.

Schlomo

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, John Pagonis wrote:

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Olaf Hering wrote:

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On Fri, Dec 28, Jochen Busch wrote:

...

Although the thing Iam interested in is somewhat multimedia stuff, it depends totaly of the PPC behaviour, and therefore I think belongs to be questioned here. Please dont blame me if you dont think so..

At the Moment I use Suse7.1, soon 7.3. I would like to escape from Mac proprietary PCI Hardware, and I did not find yet an Answer to this question: Would PCI Stuff work under Linux in my PPC when it is prooved (eg by Suse Hardware database) to work under Linux on an Intel System? e.g. a TV card with videotext and audio/video capturing features.. ? (the only card available (in Europe) for PPC seems to be the Formac ProTV, with very poor Video Performance and bad (scratchy) audio features, I owned that thing and I am giving it back to my dealer) or (since the new Powermacs come without a Sound in connector) a Card with Sound Input?

The cards should work in theory. Most network cards can be used. graphic cards for intel do not work, they need to be initialized on bootup from the Firmware or the PC BIOS. This is done with the graphics card BIOS, the Mac can not execute the PC code.

I'm not sure if a WinTV card, as example, can be used on ppc. The drivers have to be endian clean. It did not work with 2.2 kernels and 2.4.2.

Gruss Olaf

-- $ man clone

BUGS Main feature not yet implemented...

I was told some time ago that the DXr2 cards (MPEG 2decoders) need their 'BIOS Driver' loaded from the OS. Therefore in linux the driver (i haven't looked into the code) loads some soft-firmware ;-) in the card before it can start playing baxk your DVDs. Therefore i guess that (modulo endianess problems) these cards should work on our Macs. Anyone with a DXR2 ?

cheers

-- John

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