I was recently given an older pci bus power mac that I'd like to run linux on. slackintosh seems to have ceased development and yellow dog won't boot from the iso I burned. I'm looking at suse-ppc as I'm moving toward running suse on everything I can. Where can I find more info about suse-ppc especially drive setup/partitioning and instalition? Is suse-ppc undergoing current development and up to date? (I noticed that 9.1 seems to be current but could only find 7.x for ppc) How do install suse-ppc? (seems there is no iso and the PowerMAC architecture is extremely differn't from the intel background I come from) can OS8.6/OS9.1 coexist on the same physical drive and dual boot with suse? Thanks, -Galt -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
On 7/16/04 3:09 AM, "John Galt" <galt.john@gmail.com> wrote:
I was recently given an older pci bus power mac that I'd like to run linux on. slackintosh seems to have ceased development and yellow dog won't boot from the iso I burned. I'm looking at suse-ppc as I'm moving toward running suse on everything I can.
Where can I find more info about suse-ppc especially drive setup/partitioning and instalition?
Is suse-ppc undergoing current development and up to date? (I noticed that 9.1 seems to be current but could only find 7.x for ppc)
How do install suse-ppc? (seems there is no iso and the PowerMAC architecture is extremely differn't from the intel background I come from)
can OS8.6/OS9.1 coexist on the same physical drive and dual boot with suse?
Thanks,
-Galt
What model mac is it? Most will run Linux, some will not. SuSE for PPC is dead. Mac's will not boot from a cd in the way as you know how to boot from a cd. You must have some apple OS on the drive. (9 on down, no OSX) The best current Linux that I know of is Yellow Dog Linux. -- Thanks, George Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. Mark Twain
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 03:29:11AM -0400, george wrote:
On 7/16/04 3:09 AM, "John Galt" <galt.john@gmail.com> wrote:
I was recently given an older pci bus power mac that I'd like to run linux on. slackintosh seems to have ceased development and yellow dog won't boot from the iso I burned. I'm looking at suse-ppc as I'm moving toward running suse on everything I can.
Where can I find more info about suse-ppc especially drive setup/partitioning and instalition?
Is suse-ppc undergoing current development and up to date? (I noticed that 9.1 seems to be current but could only find 7.x for ppc)
How do install suse-ppc? (seems there is no iso and the PowerMAC architecture is extremely differn't from the intel background I come from)
can OS8.6/OS9.1 coexist on the same physical drive and dual boot with suse?
Thanks,
-Galt
What model mac is it? Most will run Linux, some will not.
SuSE for PPC is dead.
Mac's will not boot from a cd in the way as you know how to boot from a cd. You must have some apple OS on the drive. (9 on down, no OSX)
The best current Linux that I know of is Yellow Dog Linux.
SuSE for PPC as Box Product is ... dormant. The Enterprise PowerPC versions will boot and install on PowerMacs with some handholding, but are a bit pricy. Ciao, Marcus
On 7/16/04 3:41 AM, "Marcus Meissner" <meissner@suse.de> wrote:
SuSE for PPC as Box Product is ... dormant.
The Enterprise PowerPC versions will boot and install on PowerMacs with some handholding, but are a bit pricy.
Ciao, Marcus
Marcus Something tells me if someone is trying to utilize older hardware, they are not going to pay that much for an OS. Newer hardware running something like Apple's OSX or other Linux dis. would be more financially sound. --and "dormant"?... We were told dead. -- Thanks, George Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. Mark Twain
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 04:41:39AM -0400, george wrote:
On 7/16/04 3:41 AM, "Marcus Meissner" <meissner@suse.de> wrote:
SuSE for PPC as Box Product is ... dormant.
The Enterprise PowerPC versions will boot and install on PowerMacs with some handholding, but are a bit pricy.
Ciao, Marcus
Marcus
Something tells me if someone is trying to utilize older hardware, they are not going to pay that much for an OS. Newer hardware running something like Apple's OSX or other Linux dis. would be more financially sound.
--and "dormant"?... We were told dead.
The SUSE PowerPC Team is continously trying to motivate product management to sign off a Box product, so far without much success. But don't consider it completely dead yet. Ciao, Marcus
Am Freitag, 16. Juli 2004 10:45 schrieb Marcus Meissner:
The SUSE PowerPC Team is continously trying to motivate product management to sign off a Box product, so far without much success. But don't consider it completely dead yet.
To have no box with up-to-date security fixes (and there are no more new fixes for 7.3), makes it dead for most users. They can't wait until next release and reinstall when ever the computer is hacked or a worm was inside. We all know the PPC-box market is "a little bit" smaller then the IA32 market and Apple now - with MacOS X - has a very good Unix it's own, delivered with every new Mac. So I can understand, the management can't see profit for such a product. But if there is no now PPC-box or a ftp-version of a more recent version with up-to-date security fixes, the PPC consumerversion is dead. What versions you have inside the PPC Team doesn't matter in this case. -- Machs gut | http://www.iivs.de/schwinde/buerger/tremmel/ | http://packman.links2linux.de/ Manfred | http://www.knightsoft-net.de
On Friday 16 July 2004 10:45, Marcus Meissner wrote:
The SUSE PowerPC Team is continously trying to motivate product management to sign off a Box product, so far without much success. But don't consider it completely dead yet.
But there is no longer patches to get for SuSE 7.3 PPC. Janus -- Roskilde University, Denmark. Department of Technology and Social Science. International Development Studies. ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.
The hardware is old enough that os9.1 is the latest thing it will run (pre G3 hardware) I'd just like to make good use of it. If OSX would run on it that would probably be my first choice. -Galt On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 04:41:39 -0400, george <gasjr4wd@mac.com> wrote:
On 7/16/04 3:41 AM, "Marcus Meissner" <meissner@suse.de> wrote:
SuSE for PPC as Box Product is ... dormant.
The Enterprise PowerPC versions will boot and install on PowerMacs with some handholding, but are a bit pricy.
Ciao, Marcus
Marcus
Something tells me if someone is trying to utilize older hardware, they are not going to pay that much for an OS. Newer hardware running something like Apple's OSX or other Linux dis. would be more financially sound.
--and "dormant"?... We were told dead.
-- Thanks, George
Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. Mark Twain
-- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
On 7/16/04 5:01 AM, "John Galt" <galt.john@gmail.com> wrote:
The hardware is old enough that os9.1 is the latest thing it will run (pre G3 hardware) I'd just like to make good use of it. If OSX would run on it that would probably be my first choice.
-Galt
Look at these for running OSX: http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/ http://www.sonnettech.com/downloads/osx_upgrade_sw.html I'm not sure if your box is supported. If it is, you will may need to upgrade the processor to a G3. $170 new - less on ebay. Personally, if it is a 6500, I would sell it and get something a little better. I liked the 8600's. Linux runs very well on it. Or maybe go to a Blue & White or faster... Linux or OSX runs well. But for your 6500, look at: http://penguinppc.org/projects/hw/pmac.shtml ____________________________________________________ Hopefully SuSE gets their rear in gear and restarts the PPC side soon. There are many that would come back. I count myself in that group. In a second! -- Thanks, George Macintosh "Many Applications Crash, If Not, The Operating System Hangs"
am 16.07.2004 11:01 Uhr schrieb John Galt unter galt.john@gmail.com:
The hardware is old enough that os9.1 is the latest thing it will run (pre G3 hardware) I'd just like to make good use of it. If OSX would run on it that would probably be my first choice.
-Galt
PCI-Mac are divided in two groups: Old-World and New-World Old-World means a gray-colored case, New World is everything above the first iMac (colored case) This means you might have an Old-World Mac: Suse and I think the other distributors supports the following OW-Macs: PowerPC 7600, 7500, 7300, 7200 PowerPC 8600, 8500, 8200 PowerPC 9600, 9500 PowerPC/Performa 6500, 6400, 5500, 5400, 4400, 6360 G3 Desktop, Towers, All-in-Ones I tried several distributions, like Debian, Gentoo (very flexible - but much work), YellowDogLinux (YDL) and Suse 7.1 (never found 7.3 for Download and I didn't want to pay another 50 Euro for another Suse-Box) OW-Mac can't boot from CD but on CD 1 of Debian or YDL is everything you need to start an OW-Mac out of a working Mac-OS. I would try Debian or YDL. If you have problems, feel free to mail me. -Ronny-
You might want to consider Debian or Gentoo. Both run on PPC. Phil On Jul 16, 2004, at 3:29 AM, george wrote:
On 7/16/04 3:09 AM, "John Galt" <galt.john@gmail.com> wrote:
I was recently given an older pci bus power mac that I'd like to run linux on. slackintosh seems to have ceased development and yellow dog won't boot from the iso I burned. I'm looking at suse-ppc as I'm moving toward running suse on everything I can.
Where can I find more info about suse-ppc especially drive setup/partitioning and instalition?
Is suse-ppc undergoing current development and up to date? (I noticed that 9.1 seems to be current but could only find 7.x for ppc)
How do install suse-ppc? (seems there is no iso and the PowerMAC architecture is extremely differn't from the intel background I come from)
can OS8.6/OS9.1 coexist on the same physical drive and dual boot with suse?
Thanks,
-Galt
What model mac is it? Most will run Linux, some will not.
SuSE for PPC is dead.
Mac's will not boot from a cd in the way as you know how to boot from a cd. You must have some apple OS on the drive. (9 on down, no OSX)
The best current Linux that I know of is Yellow Dog Linux.
-- Thanks, George
Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. Mark Twain
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