I think there was mention on this list recently of there not being alsa-dev on the 7.1 CD. I have it on my CDs. It is called alsa-devel 21:28 joss:~ $ rpm -q alsa-devel alsa-devel-0.5.10-16 21:28 joss:~ $ I got my CDs a couple of weeks before they were available to buy so maybe the packages changed, but I can't imagine why.... I would like to ask a couple of sound related questions. When trying to run alsaplayer I get this error: 21:22 joss:~ $ alsaplayer AlsaPlayer 0.99.32 (C) 1999 Andy Lo A Foe <andy@alsa-project.org> and others, see AUTHORS file for details Output plugin: ALSA output v1.1 ALSA->set_sample_rate(): parameter error "Invalid argument" ERROR: failed to set sampling frequency. Exiting... And finally, is there anyone on this list who is able to listen to audio cds on a summer 2000 iMac DV SE with SUSE 7.1PPC, because I have tried every bit of advice I can get and still no joy. thanks very much joss -- http://www.josswinn.org/humour.html