Le vendredi 04 juin 2010, à 20:03 +0200, Guido Berhoerster a écrit :

LXDE (and AFAIK KDE) already use a custom menu. I've recently cleaned up the LXDE menu and fixed a number of packages along the way. What I find missing in the GNOME menu (and what I have achieved in the LXDE menu now) is a clear separation of applications, system-wide settings and desktop preferences.

FWIW, there should be no system-wide settings and desktop preferences appearing in the applications menu from GNOME. And it seems to work well with gnome-applications.menu. Where can I see the menu from LXDE?

Furthermore, every entry in the "Other" menu should be simply considered a bug, i.e. the lack of a proper category.

Yep.

Fixing the menu structure is mostly a matter of cleaning up the sloppy use of categories in specfiles.

We should simply not change the categories in our spec files and make the changes upstream instead; else, we'll diverge in a way that can easily break our menus later. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Le vendredi 04 juin 2010, à 20:48 +0200, Guido Berhoerster a écrit :

* Vincent Untz [2010-06-04 20:10]:

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Where can I see the menu from LXDE?

It's in lxmenu-data.

It turns out it's based on the one from GNOME, and it's still highly similar to the GNOME one. The two differences I can see is that there are some tweaks in how categories are used (with some <Not> that were added) and that you put the prefs/administration stuff in the same menu file, while in GNOME we used a different one (settings.menu). Else, it's the same thing. So if we choose to use gnome-applications.menu for GNOME, this would actually work pretty well with what you're using in LXDE -- even if we don't share the same applications.menu. Of course, an alternative is to change the applications.menu shipped in desktop-data-openSUSE to look like ours; but that'd mean getting agreement from KDE.

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We should simply not change the categories in our spec files and make the changes upstream instead; else, we'll diverge in a way that can easily break our menus later.

Well, depends on the quality of the upstream desktop-files which varies, you might need to push changes upstream.

Sure. And that's my point: we should not change categories downstream without pushing the change upstream. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org