[opensuse-packaging] Can you see then number of a package downloads?
Hi. This is just curiosity and I'm not sure of if this is the right list. But, can you see the number of times that a package has been downloaded? I think that could be useful to decide whether to submit a package to some of the main repos or not. Greetings. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
The build service mailing list is the correct place and I asked about this a few months ago and it's not possible at this time. -- Later, Darin On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM, jcsl <trcs@gmx.com> wrote:
Hi.
This is just curiosity and I'm not sure of if this is the right list. But, can you see the number of times that a package has been downloaded? I think that could be useful to decide whether to submit a package to some of the main repos or not.
Greetings.
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On 06/23/2014 09:28 PM, jcsl wrote:
Hi.
This is just curiosity and I'm not sure of if this is the right list. But, can you see the number of times that a package has been downloaded? I think that could be useful to decide whether to submit a package to some of the main repos or not.
Very good criteria indeed. AFAIK the only way today to count downloads is reading web servers logs. Maybe is time to put this into OBS in some way.
Greetings.
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as a packager I vote +1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, On Jun 24 09:59 Damian Ivanov wrote (excerpt):
as a packager I vote +1
I also vote +1. In particular I want to know how often what package from the OBS "Printing" project gets downloaded. My main interest is not the actual download number for a single package but the relation between the download numbers for different packages so that I could sort the packages by importance for our users. FYI: Right now I tried to file a feature request but curretly https://features.opensuse.org/ results "503 Sorry, the page you are looking for is currently down for maintenance." Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH -- Maxfeldstrasse 5 -- 90409 Nuernberg -- Germany HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, On Jun 24 11:02 Johannes Meixner wrote (excerpt):
My main interest is not the actual download number for a single package but the relation between the download numbers for different packages so that I could sort the packages by importance for our users.
First and foremost I am interested in simple raw download numbers. I am not interested in a sophisticated feedback solution. We have at least three exactly matching feature requests: https://features.opensuse.org/306193 "Provide download statistics in OBS" https://features.opensuse.org/308540 "Download statistics" https://features.opensuse.org/316639 "view the number of pacakge downloads" We have at least one related feature request: https://features.opensuse.org/305877 "Popularity contest" Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH -- Maxfeldstrasse 5 -- 90409 Nuernberg -- Germany HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
Am 24.06.2014 09:20, schrieb Alberto Planas Dominguez:
Very good criteria indeed. AFAIK the only way today to count downloads is reading web servers logs. Maybe is time to put this into OBS in some way.
OBS has nothing to do with it. You would need to read all mirrors' web- and ftp server logs... IMO there is no way to do that. -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:26, Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried@...> wrote:
Am 24.06.2014 09:20, schrieb Alberto Planas Dominguez:
Very good criteria indeed. AFAIK the only way today to count downloads is reading web servers logs. Maybe is time to put this into OBS in some way.
OBS has nothing to do with it. You would need to read all mirrors' web- and ftp server logs...
IMO there is no way to do that.
Technically partial correct. But what would give the most help in the count of OBS package download usage, would be analysing the logs of download.opensuse.org, and doing that automatically via cronjob (maybe on logrotate, as a post-rotate job). Even a weekly cronjob for the log analysis feeding a rrd database would give a much welcome feedback to all OBS users, not only user-private(repositories/home:), and project(repositories/{develproject}), but also a feedback on distribution/ and update/ usage. AFAIK download.opensuse.org is the redirector-server, so he gets all the calls, even if he does not serve the content itself. Enough for counting. - Yamaban -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, On Jun 25 20:26 Stefan Seyfried wrote (excerpt):
Am 24.06.2014 09:20, schrieb Alberto Planas Dominguez:
Very good criteria indeed. AFAIK the only way today to count downloads is reading web servers logs. Maybe is time to put this into OBS in some way.
OBS has nothing to do with it. You would need to read all mirrors' web- and ftp server logs...
Probably not the actual openSUSE Build Service but whatever openSUSE server there is wherefrom users can download binary RPMs. In particular for my particular use case (excerpt from my other mail) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ My main interest is not the actual download number for a single package but the relation between the download numbers for different packages so that I could sort the packages by importance for our users. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I assume that the download numbers for different packages on a single server are sufficient for that use case. In contrast the actual download number for package A on server X and the actual download number for package B on server Y is useless to determine which of the two packages is more important for our users. Of course this kind of "importance by download number" is not meant as an absolute importance. For example a mandatory base system package that "just works" may almost never get downloaded by users. But for such a package the absolute importance is obvious so that I am not interested in its "importance by download number". Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH -- Maxfeldstrasse 5 -- 90409 Nuernberg -- Germany HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
participants (7)
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Alberto Planas Dominguez
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Damian Ivanov
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Darin Perusich
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jcsl
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Johannes Meixner
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Stefan Seyfried
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Yamaban