[opensuse-packaging] exfat-nofuse in factory or at least consolidated in filesystem
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For the shake, it would be wonderful to synchronize the different offer we have on obs about exfat. For example have the best of dkms alternative available here https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:aevseev/exfat-nofuse-dkms or native https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:Akoellh:Kernelmodules/exfat-nof... and the fuse exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat Would be nice to have all effort submitted to filesystems repository and then pushed to factory. Also the different packagers could work together offering a perfect need for our end-users community I know that could submit them to filesystems devel repo, but I would prefer to see a (small) debate on the pro & cons by people who knows what they are doing ;-) Truly yours. -- Bruno Friedmann openSUSE Member GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
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Hi Bruno, Am 27.01.2014 22:25, schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
For the shake, it would be wonderful to synchronize the different offer we have on obs about exfat.
For example have the best of dkms alternative available here https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:aevseev/exfat-nofuse-dkms or native https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:Akoellh:Kernelmodules/exfat-nof...
and the fuse exfat-utils
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat
I just packaged those because I was under the impression that exfat would be a good filesystem for external storage portable across OSs (Hint: it is not), so I'm not really using it anymmore. I can submit it to filesystems, but I will certainly not maintain it, since I am not using it.
Would be nice to have all effort submitted to filesystems repository and then pushed to factory. Also the different packagers could work together offering a perfect need for our end-users community
For Factory / openSUSE, the legal limbo in which all this exFAT stuff is hanging is probably a problem. -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
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On Tuesday 28 January 2014 08.27:54 Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Am 27.01.2014 22:25, schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
For the shake, it would be wonderful to synchronize the different offer we have on obs about exfat.
For example have the best of dkms alternative available here https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:aevseev/exfat-nofuse-dkms or native https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:Akoellh:Kernelmodules/exfat-nof...
and the fuse exfat-utils
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat
I just packaged those because I was under the impression that exfat would be a good filesystem for external storage portable across OSs (Hint: it is not), so I'm not really using it anymmore.
I can submit it to filesystems, but I will certainly not maintain it, since I am not using it.
Okay thanks a lot for share your through about it. Now we still have a "trouble" where this damned fs is used more and more by high-end devices like camcorder, camera etc. So somewhat we should propose something to our end-users to be able to pick their data and save them to a safer fs. Now if I can certainly package and make it build (and use it due to my camcorder :-) I'm not able to choose between the fuse and the no-fuse one. Any guidance there, or what I should look at first ?
Would be nice to have all effort submitted to filesystems repository and then pushed to factory. Also the different packagers could work together offering a perfect need for our end-users community
For Factory / openSUSE, the legal limbo in which all this exFAT stuff is hanging is probably a problem.
Seems that the no-fuse is now fully GPL available, since last October.
ps : this time without cross-posting, it's not in factory for the moment. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
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Hi Bruno, Am 28.01.2014 20:54, schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
Now we still have a "trouble" where this damned fs is used more and more by high-end devices like camcorder, camera etc. So somewhat we should propose something to our end-users to be able to pick their data and save them to a safer fs.
That's certainly true.
Now if I can certainly package and make it build (and use it due to my camcorder :-) I'm not able to choose between the fuse and the no-fuse one.
Any guidance there, or what I should look at first ?
Maintaining an out-of-tree kernel module is often a major PITA. So if I had to decide, I would certainly go for the fuse version.
For Factory / openSUSE, the legal limbo in which all this exFAT stuff is hanging is probably a problem.
Seems that the no-fuse is now fully GPL available, since last October.
Yes, but there is still the latent threat that it is Microsoft's patented technology. IIUC. IANAL. YMMV. HAND :-) -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
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On Tuesday 2014-01-28 08:27, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat
I just packaged those because I was under the impression that exfat would be a good filesystem for external storage portable across OSs (Hint: it is not), so I'm not really using it anymmore.
I can submit it to filesystems, but I will certainly not maintain it, since I am not using it.
There are two parts of work to be done - creating a spec, and updating it. If there already is a /filesystems/exfat-utils (or any other package for that matter), potential passers-by only need to branch&update it. On the other hand, if there are tens of different exfats in home: lingering, passers-by are perhaps more likely to start a spec from scratch. IOW, a non-home location can be seen as "official and somewhat clean enough" to consider touching it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
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Am 30.01.2014 17:05, schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
On Tuesday 2014-01-28 08:27, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat
I just packaged those because I was under the impression that exfat would be a good filesystem for external storage portable across OSs (Hint: it is not), so I'm not really using it anymmore.
I can submit it to filesystems, but I will certainly not maintain it, since I am not using it.
There are two parts of work to be done - creating a spec, and updating it. If there already is a /filesystems/exfat-utils (or any other package for that matter), potential passers-by only need to branch&update it.
As I wrote: I can submit it to filesystems project, but I will not maintain it. BTW, to give due credit, I just copied it from home:ZaWertun:exfat and fixed up the build with debuginfo enabled. So it is not at all "my" package. -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
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Bruno Friedmann
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Jan Engelhardt
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Stefan Seyfried