[opensuse-packaging] exfat-nofuse in factory or at least consolidated in filesystem
For the shake, it would be wonderful to synchronize the different offer we have on obs about exfat. For example have the best of dkms alternative available here https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:aevseev/exfat-nofuse-dkms or native https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:Akoellh:Kernelmodules/exfat-nof... and the fuse exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat Would be nice to have all effort submitted to filesystems repository and then pushed to factory. Also the different packagers could work together offering a perfect need for our end-users community I know that could submit them to filesystems devel repo, but I would prefer to see a (small) debate on the pro & cons by people who knows what they are doing ;-) Truly yours. -- Bruno Friedmann openSUSE Member GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Bruno, Am 27.01.2014 22:25, schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
For the shake, it would be wonderful to synchronize the different offer we have on obs about exfat.
For example have the best of dkms alternative available here https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:aevseev/exfat-nofuse-dkms or native https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:Akoellh:Kernelmodules/exfat-nof...
and the fuse exfat-utils
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat
I just packaged those because I was under the impression that exfat would be a good filesystem for external storage portable across OSs (Hint: it is not), so I'm not really using it anymmore. I can submit it to filesystems, but I will certainly not maintain it, since I am not using it.
Would be nice to have all effort submitted to filesystems repository and then pushed to factory. Also the different packagers could work together offering a perfect need for our end-users community
For Factory / openSUSE, the legal limbo in which all this exFAT stuff is hanging is probably a problem. -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 28 January 2014 08.27:54 Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Hi Bruno,
Am 27.01.2014 22:25, schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
For the shake, it would be wonderful to synchronize the different offer we have on obs about exfat.
For example have the best of dkms alternative available here https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:aevseev/exfat-nofuse-dkms or native https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:Akoellh:Kernelmodules/exfat-nof...
and the fuse exfat-utils
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat
I just packaged those because I was under the impression that exfat would be a good filesystem for external storage portable across OSs (Hint: it is not), so I'm not really using it anymmore.
I can submit it to filesystems, but I will certainly not maintain it, since I am not using it.
Okay thanks a lot for share your through about it. Now we still have a "trouble" where this damned fs is used more and more by high-end devices like camcorder, camera etc. So somewhat we should propose something to our end-users to be able to pick their data and save them to a safer fs. Now if I can certainly package and make it build (and use it due to my camcorder :-) I'm not able to choose between the fuse and the no-fuse one. Any guidance there, or what I should look at first ?
Would be nice to have all effort submitted to filesystems repository and then pushed to factory. Also the different packagers could work together offering a perfect need for our end-users community
For Factory / openSUSE, the legal limbo in which all this exFAT stuff is hanging is probably a problem.
Seems that the no-fuse is now fully GPL available, since last October.
ps : this time without cross-posting, it's not in factory for the moment. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Bruno, Am 28.01.2014 20:54, schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
Now we still have a "trouble" where this damned fs is used more and more by high-end devices like camcorder, camera etc. So somewhat we should propose something to our end-users to be able to pick their data and save them to a safer fs.
That's certainly true.
Now if I can certainly package and make it build (and use it due to my camcorder :-) I'm not able to choose between the fuse and the no-fuse one.
Any guidance there, or what I should look at first ?
Maintaining an out-of-tree kernel module is often a major PITA. So if I had to decide, I would certainly go for the fuse version.
For Factory / openSUSE, the legal limbo in which all this exFAT stuff is hanging is probably a problem.
Seems that the no-fuse is now fully GPL available, since last October.
Yes, but there is still the latent threat that it is Microsoft's patented technology. IIUC. IANAL. YMMV. HAND :-) -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 2014-01-28 08:27, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat
I just packaged those because I was under the impression that exfat would be a good filesystem for external storage portable across OSs (Hint: it is not), so I'm not really using it anymmore.
I can submit it to filesystems, but I will certainly not maintain it, since I am not using it.
There are two parts of work to be done - creating a spec, and updating it. If there already is a /filesystems/exfat-utils (or any other package for that matter), potential passers-by only need to branch&update it. On the other hand, if there are tens of different exfats in home: lingering, passers-by are perhaps more likely to start a spec from scratch. IOW, a non-home location can be seen as "official and somewhat clean enough" to consider touching it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
Am 30.01.2014 17:05, schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
On Tuesday 2014-01-28 08:27, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:seife:testing/exfat-utils https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:seife:testing/fuse-exfat
I just packaged those because I was under the impression that exfat would be a good filesystem for external storage portable across OSs (Hint: it is not), so I'm not really using it anymmore.
I can submit it to filesystems, but I will certainly not maintain it, since I am not using it.
There are two parts of work to be done - creating a spec, and updating it. If there already is a /filesystems/exfat-utils (or any other package for that matter), potential passers-by only need to branch&update it.
As I wrote: I can submit it to filesystems project, but I will not maintain it. BTW, to give due credit, I just copied it from home:ZaWertun:exfat and fixed up the build with debuginfo enabled. So it is not at all "my" package. -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
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