[opensuse-packaging] texlive packaging
I sent this message to the opensuse list, but the packaging list may be better. I am updating (fresh install) to v12.3. It looks very good so far. However, I am very unhappy with the new texlive packaging. Several reasons. * Very complex and confusing. It is very, very difficult to find out what collections/schemes are needed to get a particular latex package. * Each package has a rpm overhead; it must be downloaded separately; it must be installed separately (whether in a collection or not). Most inefficient and takes far too much time. * The previous packaging provided what I needed out of the box. Now, none of the collections do -- even the collection claimed to be closest to the original one. I have to go find and install some individual ones separately (elsarticle, revtex4; lineno is picked up if I include the 'latexextra' collection). * It is a very long process to remove texlive entirely. I tried with YaST2. Removing collections is not difficult, but there are many font and bin rpms left over with no supervising parent that I can see. Each one requires 2 clicks to delete, with long waits between items. I keep an ascii list of rpms. With about 4000 entries, nearly half are texlive stuff, and it could be worse. There may be some good reasons to try the packaging change. Currently, however, it is not implemented well at all. I hope the next release either restores the previous packaging, or makes huge improvements. Thank you, Joe Comfort -- Joseph Comfort Phone: (480)-965-6377 Physics Department Dept.: (480)-965-3561 Arizona State University Fax: (480)-965-7954 Tempe, AZ 85287-1504 Email: Joseph.Comfort@asu.edu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/01/2013 08:59 PM, Joseph Comfort wrote:
I sent this message to the opensuse list, but the packaging list may be better.
I am updating (fresh install) to v12.3. It looks very good so far. However, I am very unhappy with the new texlive packaging. Several reasons. * Very complex and confusing. It is very, very difficult to find out what collections/schemes are needed to get a particular latex package.
Not at all, see: http://jaegerandi.blogspot.de/2012/12/easy-way-to-install-tex-packages-for.h... You can run e.g. "zypper in 'tex(multirow.sty)'" to install multirow.sty.
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Joseph Comfort <Joseph.Comfort@asu.edu> writes:
* It is a very long process to remove texlive entirely.
Search for packages with texlive in the name. Select "Package" -> "All in This List" -> "Delete". Done. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 02 April 2013 09.12:46 Andreas Schwab wrote:
Joseph Comfort <Joseph.Comfort@asu.edu> writes:
* It is a very long process to remove texlive entirely.
Search for packages with texlive in the name. Select "Package" -> "All in This List" -> "Delete". Done.
Andreas.
If this is true. this doesn't resolv the high impact on installation time due to the rpm overload ... :-( -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On Tuesday 02 April 2013 09.12:46 Andreas Schwab wrote:
Joseph Comfort <Joseph.Comfort@asu.edu> writes:
* It is a very long process to remove texlive entirely.
Search for packages with texlive in the name. Select "Package" -> "All in This List" -> "Delete". Done.
Andreas.
If this is true. this doesn't resolv the high impact on installation time due to the rpm overload ...
Indeed. I absolutely, positively, _HATE_ the new texlive packaging. It makes exactly nothing easier but comes with a huge overhead. Ciao, Michael. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/02/2013 04:37 AM, Michael Matz wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On Tuesday 02 April 2013 09.12:46 Andreas Schwab wrote:
Joseph Comfort <Joseph.Comfort@asu.edu> writes:
* It is a very long process to remove texlive entirely.
Search for packages with texlive in the name. Select "Package" -> "All in This List" -> "Delete". Done.
Andreas.
If this is true. this doesn't resolv the high impact on installation time due to the rpm overload ...
Indeed. I absolutely, positively, _HATE_ the new texlive packaging. It makes exactly nothing easier but comes with a huge overhead.
Ciao, Michael.
I concur. There is nothing in the Release Notes about such a major change, and no obvious links on the SuSE web site related to it. The installation is a surprise. There is no catalog of what package rpms will be loaded for a collection/scheme. The huge download/installation overhead is in the wrong direction. The loss of packages (unless one installs absolutely everything, which is much more than I want), is a step backwards. The intent may be good, but the implementation needs to be rethought from scratch. Thank you, Joe Comfort -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org
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