2010/6/29 Stephan Kulow :

Hi,

Please note that as long as 11.3 is not released, factory is in freeze.

That means, you can continue developing in your devel projects, but you should only submit to factory what is needed for 11.3.

Additionally do not submit to 11.3, I will take care that everything that is submited to factory and should be in 11.3 ends up there - the rest will be ignored till after 11.3 GM. openSUSE:11.3 exists and you can submit to it, but it's useless as we do syncs from factory to it all the time.

openSUSE:11.3:NonFree is still empty. When will it be filled? We had a problem in 11.2 with Cg and I would like to be 100% sure that it works now. Also, it seems iscan fails to build in Factory because of the drop of GTK1... a decision needs to be taken about that (unknown to me) package. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Hello, On Jun 29 20:34 Cristian Morales Vega wrote (shortened):

it seems iscan fails to build in Factory

There is no package iscan in openSUSE:Factory. There is only iscan-free in openSUSE:Factory and this one seems to build o.k. There should be no package iscan or iscan-proprietary-drivers or iscan-firmware in any of our "official" openSUSE projects. I filed deleterequests for all those IScan related proprietary packages, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=556097#c9 See also http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569917 and follow the links therein. But those IScan related proprietary stuff is still there: ------------------------------------------------------------------- $ for p in iscan iscan-proprietary-drivers iscan-firmware ; \ do osc search $p --package ; done | grep openSUSE:Factory:NonFree openSUSE:Factory:NonFree iscan openSUSE:Factory:NonFree iscan-proprietary-drivers openSUSE:Factory:NonFree iscan-firmware ------------------------------------------------------------------- My deleterequests 26017 26019 26021 for those stuff were declined with the reason "already done": ------------------------------------------------------------------- Request #26017: delete: openSUSE:Factory:NonFree/iscan Message: None State: declined 2010-01-09T11:58:08 oertel Comment: already done History: new 2009-12-08T14:49:20 jsmeix Request #26019: delete: openSUSE:Factory:NonFree/iscan-firmware Message: None State: declined 2010-01-09T11:58:13 oertel Comment: already done History: new 2009-12-08T14:50:44 jsmeix Request #26021: delete: openSUSE:Factory:NonFree/iscan-proprietary-drivers Message: None State: declined 2010-01-09T11:58:19 oertel Comment: already done History: new 2009-12-08T14:51:34 jsmeix ------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't know what went wrong because actually they are not done. Therefore I filed same kind of deleterequests again now: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Request #42306: delete: openSUSE:Factory:NonFree/iscan Message: Get rid of those proprietary and outdated stuff (see bnc#556097) State: new 2010-06-30T10:56:04 jsmeix Comment: None Request #42308: delete: openSUSE:Factory:NonFree/iscan-firmware Message: Get rid of those proprietary and outdated stuff (see bnc#556097) State: new 2010-06-30T10:56:24 jsmeix Comment: None Request #42309: delete: openSUSE:Factory:NonFree/iscan-proprietary-drivers Message: Get rid of those proprietary and outdated stuff (see bnc#556097) State: new 2010-06-30T10:56:42 jsmeix Comment: None --------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

Hello, On Jun 29 21:22 Guido Berhoerster wrote:

iscan itself (of which I suspect that it needs GTK1) is a scanning application which can probably be dropped as xsane is a good-enough replacement. The iscan-firmware and the proprietary epkowa sane driver is however needed by many Epson scanners and should definetly be kept.

This is all wrong. Neither is xsane a replacement for iscan (/usr/bin/iscan provides some special features for some Epson scanners) nor can we provide an up-to-date version of their proprietary stuff without losing support for some older Epson scanners because Avasys messed it up, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569917 and follow the links therein, in particular https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=425743 and http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2008-April/021911.html For any further questions, please contact Avasys directly! Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

* Johannes Meixner [2010-06-30 11:42]:

Hello,

On Jun 30 11:22 Guido Berhoerster wrote (shortened):

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* Johannes Meixner [2010-06-30 11:03]:

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There should be no package iscan or iscan-proprietary-drivers or iscan-firmware in any of our "official" openSUSE projects. I filed deleterequests for all those IScan related proprietary packages, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=556097#c9

... Please retain at least iscan-firmware, many Epson scanners will not work without it. Without this package the firmware has to be extracted manually from the Windows driver which is quita a hassle.

It is much easier to visit the Avasys web site and download their proprietary packages from them to make Epson scanners which need proprietary stuff work well under Linux.

No, models like the Epson Perfection 3490/3590 work fine with the opensource sane snapscan driver, they don't need the epkowa driver or the iscan application, just the firmware. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

On 2010-06-29 20:34:16 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:

openSUSE:11.3:NonFree is still empty. When will it be filled? We had a problem in 11.2 with Cg and I would like to be 100% sure that it works now.

As it still seems to be unclear: 11.3 is *NOT* branched from Factory yet. So please keep submitting to factory until coolo announces that 11.3 is branched. 11.3 is *NOT* branched from Factory yet. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org

On 2010-06-30 14:03:20 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

Le mercredi 30 juin 2010, à 13:58 +0200, Marcus Rueckert a écrit :

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On 2010-06-29 20:34:16 +0200, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:

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openSUSE:11.3:NonFree is still empty. When will it be filled? We had a problem in 11.2 with Cg and I would like to be 100% sure that it works now.

As it still seems to be unclear:

11.3 is *NOT* branched from Factory yet.

So please keep submitting to factory until coolo announces that 11.3 is branched.

11.3 is *NOT* branched from Factory yet.

Maybe we should find a way to hide openSUSE:11.3 until it's really branched? Or to automatically reject submissions sent there?

we cant really hide projects. and we use it to test the update workflow. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+help@opensuse.org