I didn't burn blu-ray for some time, and when trying to do so right now, I couldn't. K3b keep asking for growisofr, which is buggy
the original cdrecord installed from obs do not anymore remove this dependency.
packman k3b 2.0.2
thanks jdd
On 06/05/2011 11:19 PM, jdd wrote:
I didn't burn blu-ray for some time, and when trying to do so right now, I couldn't. K3b keep asking for growisofr, which is buggy
the original cdrecord installed from obs do not anymore remove this dependency.
packman k3b 2.0.2
thanks jdd
Try installing cdrtools from : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/plater/openSUSE_11.4 this will get rid of any conflicting wodim files. Then growisofs which is a separate package is found in dvd+rw-tools. If this fails then k3b setup > programs is where to look for problems.
Dave P
Le 06/06/2011 19:08, Dave Plater a écrit :
Try installing cdrtools from : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/plater/openSUSE_11.4 this will get rid of any conflicting wodim files. Then growisofs which is a separate package is found in dvd+rw-tools. If this fails then k3b setup > programs is where to look for problems.
yes, this is the problem: growisofs is buggy. It insists to verify each track during burning and this x8 times the duration, and it don't close the track at the end.
growisofs is to be completely removed if one use the original cdrecord that makes all the work much better.
I t was possible until recently, adding cdrecord on top of the users programs, but this do not work anymore.
The result is 4 hours to burn a blu-ray in place of 20"...
thanks jdd (all programs from your home or pm)
On 06/06/2011 08:26 PM, jdd wrote:
yes, this is the problem: growisofs is buggy. It insists to verify each track during burning and this x8 times the duration, and it don't close the track at the end.
growisofs is to be completely removed if one use the original cdrecord that makes all the work much better.
You didn't quite understand what I stated before, growisofs is an independent binary from the package "dvd+rw-tools" # whereis growisofs growisofs: /usr/bin/growisofs /usr/bin/X11/growisofs /usr/share/man/man1/growisofs.1.gz
# rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/growisofs dvd+rw-tools-7.1-42.1.x86_64
Looking at the package I see it has a patch to enable it to call wodim's genisoimage, I'll remove the patch and the package will be available in home:plater in the morning, your summer time is the same as our's GMT+2.00 I think. I think, from reading the dvd+rw-tools web page, that you should be able to remove dvd+rw-tools and k3b will only use cdrtools's cdrecord and growisofs direct and not via growisofs. The contraversial replacements for cdrtools are wodim's (cdrtool equivalent in brackets) wodim (cdrecord) and genisoimage (mkisofs). The problem atm is k3b requires dvd+rw-tools which hasn't changed since 2008.
My cdrtools package was broken so please update to the latest version, it's finished building and should be published (available) in a few hours. The version to look for is "cdrtools-3.00-23.2", cdrtools is a dummy package to require the correct rpms and remove the conflicting ones. All the programs listed as "3.00" in k3b's setup are from the cdrtools package. Another tip, because I have kde from the KDE:Distro:Factory repository I use the k3b from there as well and the only part needed from Packman is k3b-codecs as long as the versions match. We'll get to the bottom of your problem.
Dave
I t was possible until recently, adding cdrecord on top of the users programs, but this do not work anymore.
The result is 4 hours to burn a blu-ray in place of 20"...
thanks jdd
Le 07/06/2011 02:15, Dave Plater a écrit :
You didn't quite understand what I stated before, growisofs is an independent binary from the package "dvd+rw-tools"
yes, but any k3b version (including packman) have it as dependency, when this package have no use if you install the original cdrecord. There should be some sort of "or" flag.
Looking at the package I see it has a patch to enable it to call wodim's genisoimage,
AFAIK growisofs is always used to make an iso *and* burn the dvd/blu-ray (according to the doc, I didn't look at the code)
your summer time is the same
as our's GMT+2.00
probably. don't worry, I can wait :-)
The problem atm is k3b requires dvd+rw-tools which hasn't changed since 2008.
yes, but little time ago, is /usr/bin/cdrecord is configured to be in top of the programms list in k3b, k3b was able to use it to burn dvd/blu-ray. Look like it can't anymore, it now stops saying "I need growisofs"
ones. All the programs listed as "3.00" in k3b's setup are from the cdrtools package. Another tip, because I have kde from the KDE:Distro:Factory repository I use the k3b from there as well and the only part needed from Packman is k3b-codecs as long as the versions match.
I usually don't use the mp3 part of k3b.
The problem is that Blu-Ray are pretty expensive and my burner do not allow dry-run, so each test if wasting one BD :-(.
I recently wrote dvd without problems, may be it's only the BD part that is broken? how do k3b know what programm to use for burning BD?
thanks jdd
On 06/07/2011 08:39 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 07/06/2011 02:15, Dave Plater a écrit :
You didn't quite understand what I stated before, growisofs is an independent binary from the package "dvd+rw-tools"
yes, but any k3b version (including packman) have it as dependency, when this package have no use if you install the original cdrecord. There should be some sort of "or" flag.
K3b uses growisofs to access mkisofs, growisofs is a frontend to mkisofs and it had been patched to use wodim's genisofs. I've removed the patch and you can install "dvd+rw-tools" and cdrtools from : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/plater/openSUSE_11.4
Looking at the package I see it has a patch to enable it to call wodim's genisoimage,
AFAIK growisofs is always used to make an iso *and* burn the dvd/blu-ray (according to the doc, I didn't look at the code)
your summer time is the same
as our's GMT+2.00
probably. don't worry, I can wait :-)
The problem atm is k3b requires dvd+rw-tools which hasn't changed since 2008.
I'm going to try a k3b without the dvd+rw-tools (growisofs) dependency.
yes, but little time ago, is /usr/bin/cdrecord is configured to be in top of the programms list in k3b, k3b was able to use it to burn dvd/blu-ray. Look like it can't anymore, it now stops saying "I need growisofs"
Atm k3b has a dependency on dvd+rw-tools so it can't be installed wthout it.
ones. All the programs listed as "3.00" in k3b's setup are from the cdrtools package. Another tip, because I have kde from the KDE:Distro:Factory repository I use the k3b from there as well and the only part needed from Packman is k3b-codecs as long as the versions match.
I usually don't use the mp3 part of k3b.
The problem is that Blu-Ray are pretty expensive and my burner do not allow dry-run, so each test if wasting one BD :-(.
I recently wrote dvd without problems, may be it's only the BD part that is broken? how do k3b know what programm to use for burning BD?
It uses either cdrecord or wodim via growisofs.
Dave
thanks jdd
Le 07/06/2011 12:16, Dave Plater a écrit :
It uses either cdrecord or wodim via growisofs.
it reports
using growisofs
or
using cdrecord
I wonder if there is something in the cdrecord specs that says that it can burn BD
thanks jdd
On 06/07/2011 12:42 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 07/06/2011 12:16, Dave Plater a écrit :
It uses either cdrecord or wodim via growisofs.
it reports
using growisofs
or
using cdrecord
I wonder if there is something in the cdrecord specs that says that it can burn BD
Cdrtools - Highly portable CD/DVD/BluRay command line recording software Cdrtools is a set of command line programs that allows to record CD/DVD/BluRay media.
The suite includes the following programs:
cdrecord A CD/DVD/BD recording program readcd A program to read CD/DVD/BD media with CD-clone features cdda2wav The most evolved CD-audio extraction program with paranoia support mkisofs A program to create hybrid ISO9660/JOLIET/HFS filesystes with optional Rock Ridge attributes isodebug A program to print mkisofs debug information from media isodump A program to dump ISO-9660 media isoinfo A program to analyse/verify ISO/9660/Joliet/Rock-Ridge Filesystems isovfy A program to verify the ISO-9660 structures rscsi A Remote SCSI enabling daemon
Also look at "man 1 cdrecord" there are man pages for all of the above programs from the cdrtools package, wodim overwrites them with links.
Regards Dave P
thanks jdd
Le 07/06/2011 14:02, Dave Plater a écrit :
Cdrtools - Highly portable CD/DVD/BluRay command line recording software Cdrtools is a set of command line programs that allows to record CD/DVD/BluRay media.
sorry, I have problems with langage :-(
what I meant is a way to make k3b know that the original cdrecord can burn BD
I know it can, now I create the iso with k3b nd burn with commandline cdrecord
thanks jdd
On 06/07/2011 02:06 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 07/06/2011 14:02, Dave Plater a écrit :
Cdrtools - Highly portable CD/DVD/BluRay command line recording software Cdrtools is a set of command line programs that allows to record CD/DVD/BluRay media.
sorry, I have problems with langage :-(
what I meant is a way to make k3b know that the original cdrecord can burn BD
I know it can, now I create the iso with k3b nd burn with commandline cdrecord
thanks jdd
I've sent an email to Jorge Schilling asking him for tips on removing growisofs from k3b. In the k3b settings there is an option to put in user parameters for the various programs.
Dave
Le 07/06/2011 14:23, Dave Plater a écrit :
I've sent an email to Jorge Schilling asking him for tips on removing growisofs from k3b. In the k3b settings there is an option to put in user parameters for the various programs.
yes, it's this one I use. Some weeks ago this worked to get rid of growisofs :-)
jdd
On 06/07/2011 06:14 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 07/06/2011 14:23, Dave Plater a écrit :
I've sent an email to Jorge Schilling asking him for tips on removing growisofs from k3b. In the k3b settings there is an option to put in user parameters for the various programs.
yes, it's this one I use. Some weeks ago this worked to get rid of growisofs :-)
jdd
In that case when the k3b without growisofs dependency is built, it may solve your problem. What kde version have you got, I build kde apps in a separate sub project for kdf and kdesc as well as the normal repos. The i586 kdf one has published : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/plater:/kde4/KDE_Distro_Fact... The 11.4 ones are published remember this is a different repo to home:plater : http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/plater:/kde4/openSUSE_11.4 The version-release to look for is k3b-2.0.2-76.1. Dave P
yes, it's this one I use. Some weeks ago this worked to get rid of growisofs :-)
well. It works, but I don't know exactly what is the solution.
I used your last k3b
but I also got a look at my old working 11.3 config ans noticed I removed, in the k3b options, *all* the path to search for programms and let only /usr/bin/cdrecord; and cdrecord is used.
I will try this with other versions of k3b asap.
if it's only the path option that matters, it means it's not only sufficient to add /usr/bin/cdrecord, one must also remove all the other paths, even if the cdrecord one is the first one;.
we may come to the solution soon :-)) thanks jdd
Le 07/06/2011 23:46, jdd a écrit :
I used your last k3b
and it was that who did the trick. I reinstalled the pm one and I'm back to growisofs.
so I think you can push your version to pm
thanks jdd
Le 08/06/2011 08:52, jdd a écrit :
Le 07/06/2011 23:46, jdd a écrit :
I used your last k3b
and it was that who did the trick. I reinstalled the pm one and I'm back to growisofs.
so I think you can push your version to pm
thanks jdd
notice that this tim the burning was much faster than usual. (30"). It stopped on an error, due to the fact that growisofs don't know how to do a "verify" and it fails at this moment, but the burning was correct.
so with the present k3b + cdrecord + dvd-tools, all works well for BD
thanks a lot!
jdd
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 08:52:50 pm jdd wrote:
Le 07/06/2011 23:46, jdd a écrit :
I used your last k3b
and it was that who did the trick. I reinstalled the pm one and I'm back to growisofs.
so I think you can push your version to pm
thanks jdd
-- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/
this might be a bit off topic, perhaps not, but, if i recall correctly, Jorge Schilling is the original creator of cdrecord, and, somehow he found himself in disfavor with the rest of the linucs world, something about ego / rights and/or something about the open licensing standard and so on. This was a while ago, and i sincerely hope things got patched between Jorge and the community, his code seemed to always work while wodim and other scripts floundered numerous times in the past 3-4 years... d.
Le 08/06/2011 09:40, kanenas@hawaii.rr.com a écrit :
this might be a bit off topic, perhaps not, but, if i recall correctly, Jorge Schilling is the original creator of cdrecord, and, somehow he found himself in disfavor with the rest of the linucs world, something about ego / rights and/or something about the open licensing standard and so on. This was a while ago, and i sincerely hope things got patched between Jorge and the community, his code seemed to always work while wodim and other scripts floundered numerous times in the past 3-4 years... d.
you are right, an we worked pretty hard in this direction. I think things are much better now
jdd
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 09:58:14 pm jdd wrote:
Le 08/06/2011 09:40, kanenas@hawaii.rr.com a écrit :
this might be a bit off topic, perhaps not, but, if i recall correctly, Jorge Schilling is the original creator of cdrecord, and, somehow he found himself in disfavor with the rest of the linucs world, something about ego / rights and/or something about the open licensing standard and so on. This was a while ago, and i sincerely hope things got patched between Jorge and the community, his code seemed to always work while wodim and other scripts floundered numerous times in the past 3-4 years... d.
you are right, an we worked pretty hard in this direction. I think things are much better now
jdd
http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/
then, it is good to recognize one and bring him/her into thefold:) whoever did this, belated "good job":) d.
On 06/08/2011 09:40 AM, kanenas@hawaii.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 08:52:50 pm jdd wrote:
Le 07/06/2011 23:46, jdd a écrit :
I used your last k3b
and it was that who did the trick. I reinstalled the pm one and I'm back to growisofs.
so I think you can push your version to pm
thanks jdd
-- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/
this might be a bit off topic, perhaps not, but, if i recall correctly, Jorge Schilling is the original creator of cdrecord, and, somehow he found himself in disfavor with the rest of the linucs world, something about ego / rights and/or something about the open licensing standard and so on. This was a while ago, and i sincerely hope things got patched between Jorge and the community, his code seemed to always work while wodim and other scripts floundered numerous times in the past 3-4 years... d.
OpenSUSE have silently dropped cdrtools from base:system. Jorge Schilling was involved in a dispute with a debian packager and somehow, most probably where the egos come in, this blew up into a dispute with all the major distributions. I'm of a very strong opinion that users shouldn't suffer because of politics but I need bug reports to get my point through about cdrtools. I want to push it to Packman but the powers that be have effectively blocked that by requesting it be parallel installable with wodim which unfortunately isn't possible. Growisofs is also redundant IMHO it's totally unmaintained since 2008 and jdd's experience confirms that something is not right. Bug reports will help, please add davejplater@gmail.com as a cc. I can put cdrtools in multimedia but I've already upset one senior factory maintainer somehow resulting in slv2, LV2 plugin support, being blocked since the end of Feb so I have to toe the line.
Dave P
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 11:53:43AM +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
On 06/08/2011 09:40 AM, kanenas@hawaii.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 08:52:50 pm jdd wrote:
Le 07/06/2011 23:46, jdd a écrit :
I used your last k3b
and it was that who did the trick. I reinstalled the pm one and I'm back to growisofs.
so I think you can push your version to pm
thanks jdd
-- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/
this might be a bit off topic, perhaps not, but, if i recall correctly, Jorge Schilling is the original creator of cdrecord, and, somehow he found himself in disfavor with the rest of the linucs world, something about ego / rights and/or something about the open licensing standard and so on. This was a while ago, and i sincerely hope things got patched between Jorge and the community, his code seemed to always work while wodim and other scripts floundered numerous times in the past 3-4 years... d.
OpenSUSE have silently dropped cdrtools from base:system. Jorge Schilling
Base:System was just cleaned from non-opensuse factory related packages, cdrtools could have stayed.
was involved in a dispute with a debian packager and somehow, most probably where the egos come in, this blew up into a dispute with all the major distributions. I'm of a very strong opinion that users shouldn't suffer because of politics but I need bug reports to get my point through about cdrtools. I want to push it to Packman but the powers that be have effectively blocked that by requesting it be parallel installable with wodim which unfortunately isn't possible. Growisofs is also redundant IMHO it's totally unmaintained since 2008 and jdd's experience confirms that something is not right. Bug reports will help, please add davejplater@gmail.com as a cc. I can put cdrtools in multimedia but I've already upset one senior factory maintainer somehow resulting in slv2, LV2 plugin support, being blocked since the end of Feb so I have to toe the line.
? I doubt this slv2 story.
Ciao, Marcus
On Jun 08, 11 12:03:11 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
OpenSUSE have silently dropped cdrtools from base:system. Jorge Schilling
Thanks for raising this. How stupid!
Base:System was just cleaned from non-opensuse factory related packages, cdrtools could have stayed.
Both wodim and cdrtools now have a new home in multimedia:apps. The cleanup of base:system makes sense, and dvd-writers are not exactly at the base of the system.
was involved in a dispute with a debian packager and somehow, most probably where the egos come in, this blew up into a dispute with all the major distributions. I'm of a very strong opinion that users shouldn't suffer because of politics but I need bug reports to get my point through about cdrtools.
True (if you put egos and politics in the same bucket). Dropping it is no option. Moving it is much more appropriate.
cheers, JW-
On 06/08/2011 05:51 PM, Juergen Weigert wrote:
On Jun 08, 11 12:03:11 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
OpenSUSE have silently dropped cdrtools from base:system. Jorge Schilling
Thanks for raising this. How stupid!
Base:System was just cleaned from non-opensuse factory related packages, cdrtools could have stayed.
Both wodim and cdrtools now have a new home in multimedia:apps. The cleanup of base:system makes sense, and dvd-writers are not exactly at the base of the system.
was involved in a dispute with a debian packager and somehow, most probably where the egos come in, this blew up into a dispute with all the major distributions. I'm of a very strong opinion that users shouldn't suffer because of politics but I need bug reports to get my point through about cdrtools.
True (if you put egos and politics in the same bucket). Dropping it is no option. Moving it is much more appropriate.
cheers, JW-
I searched for it when I saw the link was broken and found no devel project, I'll submit my copy to mmaps, it should be in Packman to enable a few more features, do I need to submit wodim as well or will someone else take care of that?
Dave
On 06/08/2011 08:52 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 07/06/2011 23:46, jdd a écrit :
I used your last k3b
and it was that who did the trick. I reinstalled the pm one and I'm back to growisofs.
so I think you can push your version to pm
They already have the latest version.
thanks jdd
There's a problem with removing growisofs anyway, it's needed by DVDStyler and k9copy. My k3b is based on the factory devel one from KDE:Distro:Factory and I couldn't install the kdf build because it needed a newer kdebase4-runtime than available. The 11.4 openSUSE k3b is version 2.0.2 as well. Glad your problem is fixed. If your blueray disks take considerably longer with growisofs you need to file a bug against k3b and add davejplater@gmail.com to the cc list and maybe we can fix this for every one. They've dropped cdrtools from the devel project, I need to find out why.
Dave P
Le 08/06/2011 10:11, Dave Plater a écrit :
There's a problem with removing growisofs anyway, it's needed by DVDStyler and k9copy.
yes, but with your k3b version it's now possible to bypass growisofs in k3b (removing all the path and let only /usr/bin/cdrecord active.
anyway at present time (I have both original cdrecord and dvd-tools), growisofs works correctly. May be it calls silently cdrecord...
jdd
On 06/08/2011 01:29 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 08/06/2011 10:11, Dave Plater a écrit :
There's a problem with removing growisofs anyway, it's needed by DVDStyler and k9copy.
yes, but with your k3b version it's now possible to bypass growisofs in k3b (removing all the path and let only /usr/bin/cdrecord active.
anyway at present time (I have both original cdrecord and dvd-tools), growisofs works correctly. May be it calls silently cdrecord...
jdd
I tried deleting all the search paths and entering all the files under /usr/bin as search paths but k3b froze. growisofs uses cdrecord.
Dave P
Le 09/06/2011 01:08, Dave Plater a écrit :
I tried deleting all the search paths and entering all the files under /usr/bin as search paths but k3b froze. growisofs uses cdrecord.
I only keep /usr/bin/cdrecord in the search path (see images)
growisofs is there but unused
jdd
Le 09/06/2011 09:01, jdd a écrit :
Le 09/06/2011 01:08, Dave Plater a écrit :
I tried deleting all the search paths and entering all the files under /usr/bin as search paths but k3b froze. growisofs uses cdrecord.
I only keep /usr/bin/cdrecord in the search path (see images)
growisofs is there but unused
jdd
well on 12.1 it do not work anymore. I have to make the iso forst and them record it to BD
no solution to get rid of growisofs and use only (joerg) cdrecord?
thanks jdd
On 03/23/2012 05:22 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 09/06/2011 09:01, jdd a écrit :
Le 09/06/2011 01:08, Dave Plater a écrit :
I tried deleting all the search paths and entering all the files under /usr/bin as search paths but k3b froze. growisofs uses cdrecord.
I only keep /usr/bin/cdrecord in the search path (see images)
growisofs is there but unused
jdd
well on 12.1 it do not work anymore. I have to make the iso forst and them record it to BD
no solution to get rid of growisofs and use only (joerg) cdrecord?
thanks jdd
cdrtools-3.01a07-1.1 is published for 12.1 in multimedia:apps if you're interested.
Dave
Le 23/03/2012 16:22, jdd a écrit :
well on 12.1 it do not work anymore. I have to make the iso forst and them record it to BD
don't know if I did something or if it fixed alone, but now it works
jdd
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