Hi Eberhard & Bernd, and hi list, On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:05:51PM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
I pointed someone to hosteurope.de, which mirror the sources (rsync URL listed on http://mirrors.opensuse.org/list/11.1.html). The reason that hosteurope has the sources is that they use an old rsync module that I wanted to depreciate, but I'm in fact quite glad that these things are available in *some* place. Hosteurope also does us the favour of storing discontinued trees that we can't archive to space reasons ourselves. (Thanks, Tobi!)
I like to know that old module name too. discontinued is even more important for me than source.
If you are after the discontinued stuff, the bad news is that we don't have disk space to keep it (we keep it *somewhere*, but we have no disk space to make it available), so there is actually no rsync module that contains anything of that kind.
If you give us separate module names for source, debug and discontinued - guess what we will do? "Naturally" we will place our copies below /pub/opensuse/ - so joe user who likes to get one of "many mirrors" would have the need of excluding unwanted directories anyways.
Better you give hints for the use of rsync's exclude option and some examples with sizes. I would not mind if you would tell tlat in rsync.motd...
stage.opensuse.org should have it all, have it all in place, and give access to the topmost point. Everything else is a try to serve virtual fools, but only creating one more real fool. ;-))
Yes, in a way this would make a lot things easier. I appreciate your thoughts. I lack the time to really do something about this right now, but I'll keep it noted. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:57:29PM +0100, Bernd Leibing wrote:
Sources for 11.0 use 11GB disk space, 4-fold that amount would be ok for some mirrors
11.1 is 15.47 GB right now.
Working with the sources may be easier (= better) with the openSUSE build service. But mirroring is also a matter of trust. If you have independent mirrors, taking down of a site is much less problematic.
That's all true. (By the way, we also plan to make the build service accessible without login, but I don't know when this will happen.) So, I have created opensuse-source as rsync module at rsync://stage.opensuse.org/opensuse-source now. I can't create the same on the public server, rsync.opensuse.org, because of lack of disk space on that host. But I made the module on stage.opensuse.org publicly readable without restrictions.
Oh, by the way, I tried to get the 11.1 cups sources via http://software.opensuse.org/search
I got the address:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.1/standard/src/cups-1...
but got error 404 when I tried to download it ....
That works meanwhile; those source packages are not really at that URL, and require a Rewrite at Apache level to point them to the /source tree. This works now, I fixed it a few weeks ago. Thanks! Peter -- Contact: admin@opensuse.org (a.k.a. ftpadmin@suse.com) #opensuse-mirrors on freenode.net Info: http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Infrastructure SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development