[opensuse-marketing] [OWN] On the use of Tinyurl in Weekly News
Hi OWN Team - and also Marketing Team - guys, I've had something on my mind lately. I'm wondering if I should consult with Jan-Simon and Sascha directly, and -marketing list is the right place to post this topic or not, but I considered we have to share this topic. As you can see, 2 shortened URLs are used in Weekly News ATM. - Statistics - Bugzilla - "Detailed Bugzilla Report" -> http://tinyurl.com/392jnb - Feedback / Communicate / Get Involved - "RSS feed" -> http://tinyurl.com/7o9x6q Tinyurls are useful if the length of the article is limited. But, this is not the case. You know, Wiki pages are easily edited by everyone. If a malicious person replace the URLs with another 'malicious' URLs, how can we find that ? Of cource we can check the histry of the page and confirm who has edited the page, but I think most people don't care about it. [*1] IMHO, we shouldn't use tinyurl in Wiki pages. I know it's impossible to restrict use of tinyurl community-wide, but, at least, we shouldn't use them in Weekly News - or I'd rather say, in 'official' pages if they can be easily edited by everyone. [*1] I'd like to recommend you to install 'bit.ly Preview' add-on, if you use Firefox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10297 Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.geeko.jp/author/heliosreds _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 21 May 2009 09:20:38 pm Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
Hi OWN Team - and also Marketing Team - guys,
I've had something on my mind lately. I'm wondering if I should consult with Jan-Simon and Sascha directly, and -marketing list is the right place to post this topic or not, but I considered we have to share this topic.
As you can see, 2 shortened URLs are used in Weekly News ATM.
- Statistics - Bugzilla - "Detailed Bugzilla Report" -> http://tinyurl.com/392jnb ...
IMHO, we shouldn't use tinyurl in Wiki pages.
There is not tiniest reason to use them :-) [http://extremely-3-rows-long-URL Description] will give just Description on the screen. So tinyurl is just habit from other places where is not possible to use links, with unnecessary overhead to go to tiny-website, create URL and paste in the wiki page, when it was possible to paste original directly and then just give description. BTW, existing tinies should be replaced with originals. -- Regards, Rajko http://news.opensuse.org/category/people-of-opensuse/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
There is not tiniest reason to use them :-) [http://extremely-3-rows-long-URL Description] will give just Description on the screen.
That's right. However, as long as we use modern browsers like Firefox[1] or Opera[2], we have a chance to confirm the destination URL by placing the mouse cursor over the link before clicking. I don't know exactly *all* modern browsers have such a feature or not, though. [1] http://geeko.homelinux.org:20080/opensuse/misc/firefox_sample.jpg [2] http://geeko.homelinux.org:20080/opensuse/misc/opera_sample.jpg If we see the tinyurl in Twitter, blogs or e-mails, we can at least confirm who posted it. But we usually don't mind who wrote the article on the Wiki and are likely to trust that all links there are 'safe'. Therefore, I think putting tinyurl on the everyone-editable Wiki page is more dangerous than putting original URLs. Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.geeko.jp/author/heliosreds _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 21 May 2009 11:12:42 pm Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
If we see the tinyurl in Twitter, blogs or e-mails, we can at least confirm who posted it.
Blogs don't need tinyurl too, for the same reason as any URL can be placed under reasonable long description. It is text email and Usenet that has text only and short URL is welcome. I don't know about Tweeter. It is better to do something now then to have to patrol articles when pile of such links is bigger. Anyway thank you for noticing that. -- Regards, Rajko http://news.opensuse.org/category/people-of-opensuse/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Am Friday 22 May 2009 06:49:52 schrieb Rajko M.:
On Thursday 21 May 2009 11:12:42 pm Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
If we see the tinyurl in Twitter, blogs or e-mails, we can at least confirm who posted it.
Blogs don't need tinyurl too, for the same reason as any URL can be placed under reasonable long description.
It is text email and Usenet that has text only and short URL is welcome. I don't know about Tweeter.
It is better to do something now then to have to patrol articles when pile of such links is bigger. Anyway thank you for noticing that.
We can exchange the urls in the newsletter as all are/could be used like [<url> name] . Go ahead and change the template(s). Best regards, Jan-Simon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Jan-Simon Möller wrote:
We can exchange the urls in the newsletter as all are/could be used like [<url> name] .
Go ahead and change the template(s).
I've changed both NewTemplate1 and coming issue #73, the original URL for 'Detailed Bugzilla Report' is fair long though... Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.geeko.jp/author/heliosreds _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Am Friday 22 May 2009 12:06:00 schrieb Satoru Matsumoto:
Jan-Simon Möller wrote:
We can exchange the urls in the newsletter as all are/could be used like [<url> name] .
Go ahead and change the template(s).
I've changed both NewTemplate1 and coming issue #73, the original URL for 'Detailed Bugzilla Report' is fair long though... Hopefully the wiki/templates don't choke on the url ;) then. we'll see - Thanks.
best, Jan-Simon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 22 May 2009 06:17:23 am Jan-Simon Möller wrote:
Hopefully the wiki/templates don't choke on the url ;) then.
They would not. The same type of URLs is used in bug related instructions and they work fine :-) -- Regards, Rajko http://news.opensuse.org/category/people-of-opensuse/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
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