[opensuse-marketing] Creating videos
There was discussion in the "common language" threadabout creating videos which would require new thread, so let me put previous discussion in this post: Helen: Video is a lovely idea, but do we have any contributors who are keen and capable with video? As far as I know our video tools on linux, as Rajko mentions, are not mature so we are probably not attracting keen video creators to openSUSE. It takes a lot of time and effort to make a good quality video so people either have to be very keen to do it, or we need to feel that it's the very best way to present that particular information. There is more to creating a good video than just hitting 'record'. And I mean in terms of user experience, not just technical issues. As a user, I hate long, slow videos that take too long. I can scan a page of text very quickly to pull out the information I need. A video I have to watch to the end, and if someone takes too long I get impatient and think about all the download megabytes they are chewing up! Technically, vision quality needs to be great and if it isn't available in a high enough resolution, I can have trouble seeing the screenshots even with my glasses. So not only does a video creator need a good understanding of openSUSE and the feature(s) they are demonstrating, but also a good understanding of how to present that information and explain it well in a straightforward, clear way, as well as having the technical ability to record and publish it correctly. Kim Leyendecker: Q:What want we do on the video? A: To show how you can connect with the internet, browsing with firefox and getting mails with KMail or Thunderbird Q. For which people this video could be interesting? A: For not-technical people I think. Where can we discuss this without boring others? We can create a website. Maybe www.opensusebeginners.org or something like this. Then we make three categories: 1.) Beginner 2.) Advanced 3.) Poweruser And people who thinks they are beginners, can watch this, people who are "advanced" don´t need to watch the podcasts/vids of the beginners. A Poweruser can watch videos about working as root on the shell or compiling the kernel. jdd: we have to write a script. Basically what do we want on the video?what duration? what target user? where can we discuss this without boring others?
Kim: We can create a website. Maybe www.opensusebeginners.org or something like this. Then we make three categories:
no. I do't where we can publish but where we can discuss the content of the video, the script and the making of. I can create a mailing list of my own (I don't think we need yet an openSUSE one)or simply crosspost please, interested people, contact me privately asap Me: @ anyone that looks to create new page that will be used to publish videos: We don't want to publish videos on a new web page. * There are server creation and maintenance issues. * There are issues with site/page ranking of the new page, and also ability of people to guess proper wording that will help them find the page. We don't want to put effort in something that can be found only by few. There is YouTube that almost everyone knows, and that is the place where we must publish videos. For preview purposes we can use some other, not so popular site, but final release must go to the YouTube *and* other places. It is as simple as when you want people to see your ad and you go where people go, not to the deserts or islands lost in the ocean. @jdd: Do I have to contact you privately after this post? :) -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 09 January 2011 19:04:49 Rajko M. wrote:
There was discussion in the "common language" threadabout creating videos which would require new thread, so let me put previous discussion in this post:
Awesome, Rajko! Now, Kim, jdd, you had good ideas, are you willing to follow through on them together with Rajko and maybe others?
Helen: Video is a lovely idea, but do we have any contributors who are keen and capable with video? As far as I know our video tools on linux, as Rajko mentions, are not mature so we are probably not attracting keen video creators to openSUSE.
It takes a lot of time and effort to make a good quality video so people either have to be very keen to do it, or we need to feel that it's the very best way to present that particular information.
There is more to creating a good video than just hitting 'record'. And I mean in terms of user experience, not just technical issues. As a user, I hate long, slow videos that take too long. I can scan a page of text very quickly to pull out the information I need. A video I have to watch to the end, and if someone takes too long I get impatient and think about all the download megabytes they are chewing up!
Technically, vision quality needs to be great and if it isn't available in a high enough resolution, I can have trouble seeing the screenshots even with my glasses.
So not only does a video creator need a good understanding of openSUSE and the feature(s) they are demonstrating, but also a good understanding of how to present that information and explain it well in a straightforward, clear way, as well as having the technical ability to record and publish it correctly.
Kim Leyendecker: Q:What want we do on the video? A: To show how you can connect with the internet, browsing with firefox and getting mails with KMail or Thunderbird
Q. For which people this video could be interesting? A: For not-technical people I think.
Where can we discuss this without boring others?
We can create a website. Maybe www.opensusebeginners.org or something like this. Then we make three categories:
1.) Beginner 2.) Advanced 3.) Poweruser
And people who thinks they are beginners, can watch this, people who are "advanced" don´t need to watch the podcasts/vids of the beginners.
A Poweruser can watch videos about working as root on the shell or compiling the kernel.
jdd: we have to write a script. Basically what do we want on the video?what duration? what target user? where can we discuss this without boring others?
Kim: We can create a website. Maybe www.opensusebeginners.org or something
like this. Then we make three categories: no. I do't where we can publish but where we can discuss the content of the video, the script and the making of. I can create a mailing list of my own (I don't think we need yet an openSUSE one)or simply crosspost
please, interested people, contact me privately asap
Me: @ anyone that looks to create new page that will be used to publish videos: We don't want to publish videos on a new web page. * There are server creation and maintenance issues. * There are issues with site/page ranking of the new page, and also ability of people to guess proper wording that will help them find the page. We don't want to put effort in something that can be found only by few.
There is YouTube that almost everyone knows, and that is the place where we must publish videos. For preview purposes we can use some other, not so popular site, but final release must go to the YouTube *and* other places.
It is as simple as when you want people to see your ad and you go where people go, not to the deserts or islands lost in the ocean.
@jdd: Do I have to contact you privately after this post? :)
Le 13/01/2011 16:45, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :
On Sunday 09 January 2011 19:04:49 Rajko M. wrote:
There was discussion in the "common language" threadabout creating videos which would require new thread, so let me put previous discussion in this post:
Awesome, Rajko!
Now, Kim, jdd, you had good ideas, are you willing to follow through on them together with Rajko and maybe others?
sure. However, it looks like we are only two (may be three) only and it's a bit little for a good work :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
El jue, 13-01-2011 a las 19:03 +0100, jdd escribió:
Le 13/01/2011 16:45, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :
On Sunday 09 January 2011 19:04:49 Rajko M. wrote:
There was discussion in the "common language" threadabout creating videos which would require new thread, so let me put previous discussion in this post:
Awesome, Rajko!
Now, Kim, jdd, you had good ideas, are you willing to follow through on them together with Rajko and maybe others?
sure. However, it looks like we are only two (may be three) only and it's a bit little for a good work :-(
jdd
Just start for a while shooting your ideas and I am sure you will have more than tree interested people and contributors for that video project. -- Ricardo Chung | openSUSE Linux Ambassador http://en.opensuse.org/User:Amonthoth http://twitter.com/amon0thoth1 http://amon0thoth1.blogspot.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/openSUSE-Panama-Users-Group/326325121542 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Am 13.01.2011 20:46, schrieb Ricardo Chung:
El jue, 13-01-2011 a las 19:03 +0100, jdd escribió:
Le 13/01/2011 16:45, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :
On Sunday 09 January 2011 19:04:49 Rajko M. wrote:
> There was discussion in the "common language" threadabout creating videos > which would require new thread, so let me put previous discussion in this > post:
Awesome, Rajko!
Now, Kim, jdd, you had good ideas, are you willing to follow through on them together with Rajko and maybe others?
sure. However, it looks like we are only two (may be three) only and it's a bit little for a good work :-(
jdd
Just start for a while shooting your ideas and I am sure you will have more than tree interested people and contributors for that video project.
I think so too. But jdd is right about writting a script. In the past you´ve maybe seen, that jdd and I "talk" on this topic very different. So we maybe need more then one thread, because it will all ends in confusion when we talk on the script, the ideas, the plattform for hosting or whatever in _one_ thread. thanks kdl -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker@hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador powered by openSUSE 11.3 KDE This mail was composed under Linux Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 14 January 2011 13:18:19 Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Am 13.01.2011 20:46, schrieb Ricardo Chung:
El jue, 13-01-2011 a las 19:03 +0100, jdd escribió:
Le 13/01/2011 16:45, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :
On Sunday 09 January 2011 19:04:49 Rajko M. wrote: >> There was discussion in the "common language" threadabout >> creating videos which would require new thread, so let me put >> previous discussion in this
>> post: Awesome, Rajko!
Now, Kim, jdd, you had good ideas, are you willing to follow through on them together with Rajko and maybe others?
sure. However, it looks like we are only two (may be three) only and it's a bit little for a good work :-(
jdd
Just start for a while shooting your ideas and I am sure you will have more than tree interested people and contributors for that video project.
I think so too. But jdd is right about writting a script. In the past you´ve maybe seen, that jdd and I "talk" on this topic very different. So we maybe need more then one thread, because it will all ends in confusion when we talk on the script, the ideas, the plattform for hosting or whatever in _one_ thread.
Or contact each other in private, make a script together & a rough video and let people comment on it... Just getting something done is often the best way of getting good results ;-)
thanks kdl
Well... Let's use this thread for setting up some video infos. 1) public expected For what public do we want a video? The still not completed openSUSE goals say we aim at power user (or sort of). So we don't target newbie. But we have to ask ourselve who will need a video for documentation? I don't really have an answer. Most of the time I choose written doc against video, eventually with some screenshot. 2) subjects on priority order A subject asked was to connect to the net, but is that usefull (see 1))? What is (are) the subject where video have a substancial benefit comparing to simple explanation with/without screenshots? As we are on a marketting mailing list, I beg it's marketting, not techichal issues. 2-1) Installing openSUSE We can do a video showing an openSUSE installation, commented with voice over. What comment shall we use, we will see later... 2-2) Demonstrating YaST We could do a video showing YaST use, for example 2-2-1) to configure repositories and 2-2-2 to find a package, preferably an obscure one 2-3) desktop organisation. I can show how I organise my desktop, with 8 virtual desktops 2-3 I use to make lessons, I can make a special shot for video (last done, but for newbies, setup an article in openoffice, work photos with digiKam, make a nice poster with openoffice). I also have some course (here in french) http://fr.opensuse.org/Formation_d%27administrateur_Baby, I could make them videos (but all this is pretty much work) 3) Full video or screen dump? I know pretty well true video (with camcorder), I'm not familiar with screen dump software (in fact I know none really friendly, but I can learn :-) 4) goodies. On many videos, the image do not need to have a comment, but it's better with some music. I definitvely need somebody who could choose music for me. We also need opening and closing, if possible standard (same for all videos) - that is the 10 s at the beginning and at the end of the video 5) voice over We can use an existing video and add various languages. Here I added french http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvtdy0b5UY 6) subtitles here I added subtitles. We could even make a video to show how we add subtitles :-)) thats all folks for now :-)) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 19 January 2011 17:45:09 jdd wrote:
Well... Let's use this thread for setting up some video infos.
1) public expected
For what public do we want a video? The still not completed openSUSE goals say we aim at power user (or sort of). So we don't target newbie.
But we have to ask ourselve who will need a video for documentation? I don't really have an answer. Most of the time I choose written doc against video, eventually with some screenshot.
I think we should focus on marketing video's. That means showing off cool stuff, preferably a bit unique to openSUSE (but doesn't have to be). Like Yast stuff, OBS. Something like a cool 1-minute screencast combining GNOME, KDE, XFCE and LXDE to show that we offer so much choice; a video showing how Yast allows you to install -debug or -devel packages with one click (super cool for developers! Something we should advertise...); a video showing how to get an OBS repository added & packages like a weekly KDE or GNOME snapshot installed. Many of those would probably require a 20 min screencast, then cutting & speeding it up to 1 or 2 minutes or so.
2) subjects on priority order A subject asked was to connect to the net, but is that usefull (see 1))?
What is (are) the subject where video have a substancial benefit comparing to simple explanation with/without screenshots?
As we are on a marketting mailing list, I beg it's marketting, not techichal issues.
Yeah, see above :D
2-1) Installing openSUSE We can do a video showing an openSUSE installation, commented with voice over. What comment shall we use, we will see later...
2-2) Demonstrating YaST We could do a video showing YaST use, for example 2-2-1) to configure repositories and 2-2-2 to find a package, preferably an obscure one
2-3) desktop organisation. I can show how I organise my desktop, with 8 virtual desktops
2-3 I use to make lessons, I can make a special shot for video (last done, but for newbies, setup an article in openoffice, work photos with digiKam, make a nice poster with openoffice). I also have some course (here in french) http://fr.opensuse.org/Formation_d%27administrateur_Baby, I could make them videos (but all this is pretty much work)
3) Full video or screen dump? I know pretty well true video (with camcorder), I'm not familiar with screen dump software (in fact I know none really friendly, but I can learn :-)
4) goodies. On many videos, the image do not need to have a comment, but it's better with some music. I definitvely need somebody who could choose music for me.
We also need opening and closing, if possible standard (same for all videos) - that is the 10 s at the beginning and at the end of the video
We can pic an openSUSE image and use that... fade in, fade out - done... :D
5) voice over We can use an existing video and add various languages. Here I added french http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvtdy0b5UY
6) subtitles here I added subtitles. We could even make a video to show how we add subtitles :-))
thats all folks for now :-))
Awesome :D
jdd
Le 19/01/2011 22:22, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :
We also need opening and closing, if possible standard (same for all videos) - that is the 10 s at the beginning and at the end of the video
We can pic an openSUSE image and use that... fade in, fade out - done... :D
we deserve better :-) and do we have an openSUSE music? of course we could use that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw),:-)) 7) what video format? I mostly use videos for burnig dvd or BD ou youtube/facebook, so I don't really know free formats (ogg, theora) we need 1280 x 720 (HD Ready) with 3/4kbps for better quality on the web. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
just to begin with, my work place (sorry, in french) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YKqIJkv6fE jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Le 20/01/2011 17:39, jdd a écrit :
just to begin with, my work place (sorry, in french)
better give a general link to the demo videos (work in progress, do not share without reason) http://dodin.org/wiki/index.php?n=Photo.OpenSUSEVideos jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Le 20/01/2011 17:52, jdd a écrit :
Le 20/01/2011 17:39, jdd a écrit :
just to begin with, my work place (sorry, in french)
better give a general link to the demo videos (work in progress, do not share without reason)
Well... on that page I referenced three kind of videos. 1) a small shot showing my own desktop with video in run by a small compact camera; 2) the complete shot of the said camera, showing the computer screen during openSUSE installation. I can only shot 8 mn at a time with this camera (2Gb fat 32 files, HD 720p) 3) the same shot, from recordMyDesktop. Looks like RMD can neither record more than 10 minutes (at least as default from the GUI) For the final video, we probably have to mix these recording methods, not to be too boring. The present comment, when there is one, is in french (much easier for me to speak french when nothing is prepared :-). I can give * a basic english text written by hand * a basic voice over with the text. I need an enbglish speaker able to repeat the english text, preferably with a good accent (english one or may be NY one? I know the Texas one and don't beleive it to be good for us. It's not the sound of the accent that is a problem (I like accents :-) but the english have to be understood by bad english listeners, and so have to be worded s l o w a n d w i t h t h e s l l a b u s d e t a c h e d (not too much, of course :-)) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:09:40 pm jdd wrote:
Le 20/01/2011 17:52, jdd a écrit :
Le 20/01/2011 17:39, jdd a écrit :
just to begin with, my work place (sorry, in french)
better give a general link to the demo videos (work in progress, do not share without reason)
That is one of the points - work in progress should not go public. Videos are large files that can be shared among authoring team.
We should show something staged. Techno geek corner is the most common place where user will install openSUSE, but we want more. Don't we? Casual user environment, like living room, kids room, where one laptop is used from first touch with openSUSE download page, download (comment about duration instead of progress bar :), burning iso to media of your choice (USB stick for new computers, CD/DVD or older), where to find free burning software (short overview, good if we have some that doesn't require juggling as SUSE Studio Image writer), and so on.
For the final video, we probably have to mix these recording methods, not to be too boring.
For sure.
The present comment, when there is one, is in french (much easier for me to speak french when nothing is prepared :-). I can give
French is good for public using it, just as many other languages.
* a basic english text written by hand * a basic voice over with the text.
LXDE video comes to my mind. Nicely composed, with some plain human in camera view from time to time, it can be used to create nice video. See with oldcpu in forums. His voice is very clear, at least to me. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
http://dodin.org/wiki/index.php?n=Photo.OpenSUSEVideos and specially the first opening demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0J8AZwqAmg jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, January 21, 2011 02:31:41 pm jdd wrote:
Nice as general intro, although it should blend in topic related. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Even though it is multimedia I would prefer it to be cc'ed to marketing list. Videos can be used for releases and studd and other stuff too. Regards Manu On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 22:18 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Friday, January 21, 2011 02:31:41 pm jdd wrote:
Nice as general intro, although it should blend in topic related.
-- Regards, Rajko
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I couldn't agree more with Manu ;-) This is definately also a marketing subject.
Kostas
2011/1/22 Manu Gupta
Even though it is multimedia I would prefer it to be cc'ed to marketing list. Videos can be used for releases and studd and other stuff too.
Regards Manu
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 22:18 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Friday, January 21, 2011 02:31:41 pm jdd wrote:
Nice as general intro, although it should blend in topic related.
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Le 22/01/2011 09:49, Manu Gupta a écrit :
Even though it is multimedia I would prefer it to be cc'ed to marketing list. Videos can be used for releases and studd and other stuff too.
I don't think the technical details ow to be on marketting, onblmy when it's more fine and visible. But these details are welcome on multimedia. We lack of tutorials jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 21 Jan 2011 21:31:41 jdd wrote:
http://dodin.org/wiki/index.php?n=Photo.OpenSUSEVideos
and specially the first opening demo:
I like the production values, what are you using to make it? Could the Stripes theme for 11.4 be used? The green texture looks nice, but is obviously not part of the 11.4 identity. Perhaps keep the left half black and fade into Stripes on the right? The orange text is clashing and, but that's just a placeholder, right? Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Le 22/01/2011 12:03, Will Stephenson a écrit :
I like the production values, what are you using to make it?
I start from the "I'm a geeko" video, cut with avidemux (copy to dvd format), make the title right now with kdenlive and export to dvd. I will document the work soon
Could the Stripes theme for 11.4 be used?
do we have already the final grapĥics for 11.4? Is the install already using them? I remember than for 11.3, artwork was set only at the very last moment.
The orange text is clashing and, but that's just a placeholder, right?
clashing it on purpose, but I find the text too bold. If I could have some help for that from the arttwork team, I would like it, I'm not at all an artist jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 22 January 2011 13:27:00 jdd wrote:
Could the Stripes theme for 11.4 be used?
do we have already the final grapĥics for 11.4? Is the install already using them? I remember than for 11.3, artwork was set only at the very last moment.
I've just submitted the final KDE artwork and looking for someone to do the installer artwork on -artwork.. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Le 23/01/2011 21:01, Will Stephenson a écrit :
On Saturday 22 January 2011 13:27:00 jdd wrote:
Could the Stripes theme for 11.4 be used?
do we have already the final grapĥics for 11.4? Is the install already using them? I remember than for 11.3, artwork was set only at the very last moment.
I've just submitted the final KDE artwork and looking for someone to do the installer artwork on -artwork..
Will
so will wait a bit :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
by the way, there is a list "opensuse-multimedia", may be we should continue the discussion there? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, January 21, 2011 02:33:01 pm jdd wrote:
opensuse-multimedia
OK (just subscribed). -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 20 January 2011 19:09:40 jdd wrote:
Le 20/01/2011 17:52, jdd a écrit :
Le 20/01/2011 17:39, jdd a écrit :
just to begin with, my work place (sorry, in french)
better give a general link to the demo videos (work in progress, do not share without reason)
Well... on that page I referenced three kind of videos.
1) a small shot showing my own desktop with video in run by a small compact camera;
2) the complete shot of the said camera, showing the computer screen during openSUSE installation. I can only shot 8 mn at a time with this camera (2Gb fat 32 files, HD 720p)
3) the same shot, from recordMyDesktop. Looks like RMD can neither record more than 10 minutes (at least as default from the GUI)
For the final video, we probably have to mix these recording methods, not to be too boring.
Ok, you're way ahead of me, shame on me for reading up on this so late. Sorry for that! Yes, mixing an external shot & recordmydesktop, brilliant idea :D
The present comment, when there is one, is in french (much easier for me to speak french when nothing is prepared :-). I can give
* a basic english text written by hand * a basic voice over with the text.
I need an enbglish speaker able to repeat the english text, preferably with a good accent (english one or may be NY one? I know the Texas one and don't beleive it to be good for us. It's not the sound of the accent that is a problem (I like accents :-) but the english have to be understood by bad english listeners, and so have to be worded s l o w a n d w i t h t h e s l l a b u s d e t a c h e d (not too much, of course :-))
Imho brittish sounds sexy, we could probably trick Andrew Wafaa or Will Stephenson or so?
jdd
On Saturday, January 22, 2011 04:21:08 am Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Imho brittish sounds sexy, we could probably trick Andrew Wafaa or Will Stephenson or so?
In US commercials use Australian :) (commercials = someone was paid to find out what public likes) So, it is not that straight forward, it depends on locale. To underscore international character of the community we can use original sound track and dub English translation. Start with few words in original language, then lower the original volume and dub translation on it. Thant sounds like real time translations; translator has to capture some context before he/she can start translating. Also remember SUSE Studio award, it was one of the best news videos produced by Linux community. It kept my attention all the time, and not to forget, it was not boys-only show. In our case we can have speakers all over the world explaining parts of installation, with translation, for instance, in English. Having installation in the frame for boring parts, where speakers keep audience attention, and full screen for few input fields, with voice explaining what has to be entered, keep dynamics. Also, speeding up installation, as B. Wiederman did in his videos, is also something to consider. The only change would be to add speaker comment that we will speed up to the next stage, so that user doesn't feel tricked when real installation speed is not that high. I guess that Bernhard can produce videos for 11.4 as soon as artwork is done. Did jdd mention script? Yes, few times. I consider comments to this thread as proposals for parts of the script. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Le 22/01/2011 15:45, Rajko M. a écrit :
Did jdd mention script? Yes, few times. I consider comments to this thread as proposals for parts of the script.
yes, sure. That said for a video about install, there is little need for a script (excluding the text to read) it's even difficult to make a preliminary script, giving we don't master the sequences order (we have to follow the timeline) but it's only for this basic video... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Here is the first complete clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPx7cmhAjg I can say right now that the most visible bug is that VirtualBox install began in 4x3 format when I try to make a 6x9 video... I dubbed an english sound track. However, writing the text beforehand was not practical, because I had to follow the install stream and don't know the exact content, so I recoded it during a clip run. I have to think a little before speaking english, so there where many silences I had to cut off the track on kdenlive :-) Tha second point to know is that kdenlive works very well and managed the various video formats the best it could do and without crashing. Visibly the kdenlive team made a great work last year :-). I think this clip can be use as reference between us to know where we have to work... I try to keep my page up to date :-) http://dodin.org/wiki/index.php?n=Photo.OpenSUSEVideos -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 20 January 2011 17:39:12 jdd wrote:
just to begin with, my work place (sorry, in french)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YKqIJkv6fE
jdd Dude, I don't speak a word French but it looks crowded there :D
On Thursday 20 January 2011 17:39:12 jdd wrote:
just to begin with, my work place (sorry, in french)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YKqIJkv6fE
jdd
I would personally go with screencasts instead of using a camera to capture the screen. It looks cleaner, frankly... And to give us an idea of what you'll be doing, it'd be great if you could try to speak english - no matter how bad that English is, doesn't matter, we can dub it later with a sexy voice by Will Stephenson or so :D It would just be nice to have any idea what you're saying now ;-)
On 01/22/2011 11:19 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Thursday 20 January 2011 17:39:12 jdd wrote:
just to begin with, my work place (sorry, in french)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YKqIJkv6fE
jdd
I would personally go with screencasts instead of using a camera to capture the screen. It looks cleaner, frankly...
And to give us an idea of what you'll be doing, it'd be great if you could try to speak english - no matter how bad that English is, doesn't matter, we can dub it later with a sexy voice by Will Stephenson or so :D
It would just be nice to have any idea what you're saying now ;-)
what about using the existant ? for example, in the last months openqa is able to publish the result of testing in two forms screenshots, and assemble all that in a ogv. If you think two minutes about the power of the scripting, with one test script you are able to replay it the numerous times you need, and think just to change the locale at startup, and you get the same screenshots in all language you want for the litterally same price. check that here http://openqa.opensuse.org/ -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Le 22/01/2011 16:39, Bruno Friedmann a écrit :
On 01/22/2011 11:19 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Thursday 20 January 2011 17:39:12 jdd wrote:
just to begin with, my work place (sorry, in french)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YKqIJkv6fE
jdd
I would personally go with screencasts instead of using a camera to capture the screen. It looks cleaner, frankly...
And to give us an idea of what you'll be doing, it'd be great if you could try to speak english - no matter how bad that English is, doesn't matter, we can dub it later with a sexy voice by Will Stephenson or so :D
It would just be nice to have any idea what you're saying now ;-)
what about using the existant ?
for example, in the last months openqa is able to publish the result of testing in two forms screenshots, and assemble all that in a ogv.
If you think two minutes about the power of the scripting, with one test script you are able to replay it the numerous times you need, and think just to change the locale at startup, and you get the same screenshots in all language you want for the litterally same price.
check that here http://openqa.opensuse.org/
yes, that's very cool! with this (and at least for the install part), we could: * make an english model * publish the frame (the opening, the text written down to make the translation easier...) so any ambassador could publish his own version. thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
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