[opensuse-marketing] Geeko wants you!
Following the discussion at the project meeting of Jan 11th, I open here a thread to discuss the "Geeko wants you!" idea I proposed on -project ML. I think you can find a nice summary there: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2009-03/msg00072.html An example of the page can be found here: http://en.opensuse.org/Geeko_wants_you! Regards, A. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Following the discussion at the project meeting of Jan 11th, I open here a thread to discuss the "Geeko wants you!" idea I proposed on -project ML. ... An example of the page can be found here:
Hi, I really like the "Geeko wants you!" idea and I really think creating such a page makes sense. My suggestions: * Do not use "Task 1", ... "Task 5". Using them might make the page confusing if someone solves a task and removes it. Moreover /named/ tasks are easier to understand and find, e.g., use a shortened version of description. * Write $task_names in bold (easier to understand the page) or invent other conventions. Currently it's a bit hard to find what you are interested in unless you read the whole page. * Hard to say how often is this page going to be updated (expanded...) but it might make sense to create a separate page for each Area and have the "Geeko wants you!" page just as a starting point. Too many pieces of information on one page might make people run away. * Wiki part could reference a wiki-format documentation. Bye Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, YaST Developer (xn--luk-gla45d) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ano, ano. Moudry rozkaz. Sam jsem nemel v tech gratulacich jasno.
Lukas Ocilka wrote:
Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Following the discussion at the project meeting of Jan 11th, I open here a thread to discuss the "Geeko wants you!" idea I proposed on -project ML. ... An example of the page can be found here:
Hi,
I really like the "Geeko wants you!" idea and I really think creating such a page makes sense.
BTW, I've blogged about "Geeko wants you!" ;) and asked some openSUSE developers for help... http://kobliha-suse.blogspot.com/2009/03/geeko-wants-you.html Bye Lukas
Il giorno gio, 12/03/2009 alle 15.06 +0100, Lukas Ocilka ha scritto:
BTW, I've blogged about "Geeko wants you!" ;) and asked some openSUSE developers for help...
http://kobliha-suse.blogspot.com/2009/03/geeko-wants-you.html
Thanks Lukas! I agree with your points in your previous email. I just wrote the "draft page" quite in a hurry to have something to talk about. I'll reorganize the tasks as you suggests, which sounds better. Next week I'm off from work and I can do that. ;) Best, A. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Lukas Ocilka <lukas.ocilka@suse.cz> wrote:
Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Following the discussion at the project meeting of Jan 11th, I open here a thread to discuss the "Geeko wants you!" idea I proposed on -project ML. ... An example of the page can be found here:
Hi,
I really like the "Geeko wants you!" idea and I really think creating such a page makes sense.
My suggestions:
* Do not use "Task 1", ... "Task 5". Using them might make the page confusing if someone solves a task and removes it. Moreover /named/ tasks are easier to understand and find, e.g., use a shortened version of description.
* Write $task_names in bold (easier to understand the page) or invent other conventions. Currently it's a bit hard to find what you are interested in unless you read the whole page.
Incidentally, I've modified the "Tasks" page a few days ago. This page is basically the same as AlbertoP's wiki page and thus both should be merged in a near future (I've also added the "Weekly News maintainer request" on it). *Is it better like this ? - the two first issues are solved here (NB: Just look at the Art & Branding/Communication part - I haven't modified the "wiki" part actually). There is also two different "template", which one you prefer ? I personnaly think the 2nd one ("communication") is a little bit better. *Imho, no need to add "general information/ways of contributing" on the "Task/Geeko wants you" page, as we already have "How to Participate" for this kind of information. I think this page should be used only for the *specific* tasks. Keep it simple, clear and concise as much as possible. - How to Participate -> what you can do - Taks/Geeko's -> what the project higly needs *now* *I'm actually not convinced anymore by the title of Albertop page, even if I was really enthusiast at first sight. Effectively, "Geeko" is not really well-know outside the openSUSE community... A more formal heading (like "openSUSE wants you" or "openSUSE Project needs you") could suit better to the purpose of the page. What are you thinking about this, guys ?
* Hard to say how often is this page going to be updated (expanded...) but it might make sense to create a separate page for each Area and have the "Geeko wants you!" page just as a starting point. Too many pieces of information on one page might make people run away.
* Wiki part could reference a wiki-format documentation.
*Any idea to collect efficiently the initial "data" of the different teams ? What about the long term ? R. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 12 March 2009 09:40:44 am Rémy Marquis wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Lukas Ocilka <lukas.ocilka@suse.cz> wrote:
Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Following the discussion at the project meeting of Jan 11th, I open here a thread to discuss the "Geeko wants you!" idea I proposed on -project ML. ... An example of the page can be found here:
Hi,
I really like the "Geeko wants you!" idea and I really think creating such a page makes sense.
My suggestions:
* Do not use "Task 1", ... "Task 5". Using them might make the page confusing if someone solves a task and removes it. Moreover /named/ tasks are easier to understand and find, e.g., use a shortened version of description.
* Write $task_names in bold (easier to understand the page) or invent other conventions. Currently it's a bit hard to find what you are interested in unless you read the whole page.
Incidentally, I've modified the "Tasks" page a few days ago. This page is basically the same as AlbertoP's wiki page and thus both should be merged in a near future (I've also added the "Weekly News maintainer request" on it).
*Is it better like this ? - the two first issues are solved here (NB: Just look at the Art & Branding/Communication part - I haven't modified the "wiki" part actually). There is also two different "template", which one you prefer ? I personnaly think the 2nd one ("communication") is a little bit better.
Looks good. Maybe tree approach can help. One page defines broad tasks, and then links go into details. That will give space for each team to list own tasks and lower maintenace of Tasks page. However, Tasks can have one or two items that need urgent attention.
*Imho, no need to add "general information/ways of contributing" on the "Task/Geeko wants you" page, as we already have "How to Participate" for this kind of information. I think this page should be used only for the *specific* tasks. Keep it simple, clear and concise as much as possible. - How to Participate -> what you can do - Taks/Geeko's -> what the project higly needs *now*
*I'm actually not convinced anymore by the title of Albertop page, even if I was really enthusiast at first sight. Effectively, "Geeko" is not really well-know outside the openSUSE community... A more formal heading (like "openSUSE wants you" or "openSUSE Project needs you") could suit better to the purpose of the page. What are you thinking about this, guys ?
Maybe paragraph about Geeko, with link to more info, before anything else ...
* Hard to say how often is this page going to be updated (expanded...) but it might make sense to create a separate page for each Area and have the "Geeko wants you!" page just as a starting point. Too many pieces of information on one page might make people run away.
* Wiki part could reference a wiki-format documentation.
*Any idea to collect efficiently the initial "data" of the different teams ? What about the long term ?
Collect teams contact contact information and bug them every now and then. That may force them to group and select leader. Nothing is better than feeling of personal responsibility for part of project. BTW, Wiki Team needs leader too. How to do that? -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Il giorno ven, 13/03/2009 alle 01.40 +1100, Rémy Marquis ha scritto:
Incidentally, I've modified the "Tasks" page a few days ago. This page is basically the same as AlbertoP's wiki page and thus both should be merged in a near future (I've also added the "Weekly News maintainer request" on it).
*Imho, no need to add "general information/ways of contributing" on the "Task/Geeko wants you" page, as we already have "How to Participate" for this kind of information.
If the page has to be the _first_ point of contact, so some general information is required. What I'm trying to do is to make information easy to find. If we spread it on multiple pages without any connection one with the other, users won't find them (and the current home page structure doesn't help ;)).
I think this page should be used only for the *specific* tasks. Keep it simple, clear and concise as much as possible. - How to Participate -> what you can do - Taks/Geeko's -> what the project higly needs *now*
My theory is that if you know what kind of help is needed, you don't need to know "how to participate", but "how to do what is needed". For this, I think it's better to create a sort of "web of links" from the "Geeko wants you!" page to pages where activities and tools to perform them are explained. That's why I would reduce the general information to a few lines, and let "how to participate" alone, to provide more information on how the project works, how to become a member and so on (of course a link to that is OK).
*I'm actually not convinced anymore by the title of Albertop page, even if I was really enthusiast at first sight. Effectively, "Geeko" is not really well-know outside the openSUSE community... A more formal heading (like "openSUSE wants you" or "openSUSE Project needs you") could suit better to the purpose of the page. What are you thinking about this, guys ?
Well, I'm biased on this! ;-) I like the name because it makes it funnier and more "personal", making explicit reference to our mascotte, but well, it's not written in stone either.
*Any idea to collect efficiently the initial "data" of the different teams ? What about the long term ?
Spam the teams asking for input? ;-) On the long run, ideally it should auto-maintain, if teams start to use it and the supporting community grows. However, some maintainer to keep it clean and someone that pokes teams if they don't write on it is necessary. Best, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Alberto Passalacqua <alberto.passalacqua@tin.it> wrote:
Following the discussion at the project meeting of Jan 11th, I open here a thread to discuss the "Geeko wants you!" idea I proposed on -project ML.
Fantastic. Thanks!
An example of the page can be found here: http://en.opensuse.org/Geeko_wants_you!
This is a great start. One thing we might want to add here: a "mentors" section: In addition to pointing people to the appropriate mailing list, we might want to add names of openSUSE community members who are willing and able to help "mentor" someone directly. I think sending someone to a list like opensuse-wiki or opensuse-artwork is OK, but might be intimidating for first-time contributors. So, if you're adding tasks to this, should we also ask that the person adding the task give their contact info so that people can ask a few questions. And do we want to say "task"? I think of tasks as being something you *have* to do, community contributions as something you want to do. What about "project" instead? (or other suggestions?) Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net> openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org Blogs: http://blogs.zdnet.com/community | http://www.dissociatedpress.net Twitter: jzb | Identica: jzb http://identi.ca/group/opensuse/members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 12 March 2009 10:05:45 am Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
And do we want to say "task"? I think of tasks as being something you *have* to do, community contributions as something you want to do. What about "project" instead? (or other suggestions?)
Project sounds large ;-) Job? Tasks, seems good to me. It is, to some extent, what you have to do, if you accept it. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
This is a great start. One thing we might want to add here: a "mentors" section: In addition to pointing people to the appropriate mailing list, we might want to add names of openSUSE community members who are willing and able to help "mentor" someone directly.
I think sending someone to a list like opensuse-wiki or opensuse-artwork is OK, but might be intimidating for first-time contributors.
I agree. The idea of the contact information for each specific activity is exactly this one. But I had no "personal contact" to put there, so to give an example of how I would structure the page, I put the ML.
And do we want to say "task"? I think of tasks as being something you *have* to do, community contributions as something you want to do. What about "project" instead? (or other suggestions?)
Yes. Project sounds good. Someone suggested "activity" too. Best, A. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
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