On Thursday 03 February 2011 08:06:14 Manu Gupta wrote:

I really like upgrade.opensuse.org, we can request this at opensuse-web ML

Please do, in that case we can use that as label for the promo DVD stickers!

Regards Manu

On Wed, 2011-02-02 at 19:28 -0800, Tony Su wrote:

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Whoever the ListAdmin is, it should be an easy fix to fix this mis-configuration where the default recipient for a "Reply" is the original sender and not the List daemon.

So, resending this message to the List...

Tony

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tony Su Date: Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE vs. Fedora To: jdd

Actually, I've been dealing with a lot of this in the Forums Tech help in the past year or so.

Today's "kernel" is actually a more basic, generic image plus various modules which can be optionally loaded at various times... And I'm seeing numerous differences between different distros on hardware support at least partly in what modules and higher level applications used to interact with the hardware.

A case in point, one reason why I'm using OpenSUSE is the ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) on my primary laptop. Debian/Ubuntu doesn't use ALSA, and their sound architecture doesn't work on my machine.

Also, although i wouldn't by any stretch of imagination consider myself an expert, but I also know that OpenSUSE is built slightly differently implementing things like "update-alternatives" to point to one of multiple similar libraries.

And, don't forget GRUB for the moment although it's probably a topic to be avoided until v11.4, OpenSUSE 11.3 and earlier is using "legacy GRUB" which has recently evolved into something fairly unique to OpenSUSE.

So, I would probably word it this way...

Because OpenSUSE is quick to adopt and integrate updates and improvements by its component partners, the User will benefit by experiencing fewer hardware compatibility issues with best performance possible.

Tony

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:36 PM, jdd wrote:

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Le 02/02/2011 00:46, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :

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I wanted to point out things which are unique to openSUSE. Frankly, I don't believe there are huge differences in ease of use, administration capabilities and hardware support between the major distro's...

hardware support is mostly kernel, so yes this part is probably shared. But hardware setup is not. and there we are not always first (mandriva find always my printer, openSUSE never, and it's simply a network HP laser, pretty common)

for example the openSUSE partitionner is unparallel with parted!

jdd

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On Thursday, February 03, 2011 01:06:14 am Manu Gupta wrote:

I really like upgrade.opensuse.org, we can request this at opensuse-web ML

I'm not sure how upgrade.opensuse.org will succeed when there is no content on the wiki that is probably easier to keep up to date? Do we need another http://help.opensuse.org ? It is used in many places and it so empty that is shame that we keep it on the web (which reminds me on a problem with some language wikies). -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

What is generally supposed to be on those pages? IMO it's unlikely that those enormous topics can't hope to scratch the surface by a wiki, if anything those URLs probably would be there only for initial basic information and then links to further discussiont... likely the Technical Help Forums. Tony On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Manu Gupta wrote:

On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 21:27 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:

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On Thursday, February 03, 2011 01:06:14 am Manu Gupta wrote:

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I really like upgrade.opensuse.org, we can request this at opensuse-web ML

I'm not sure how upgrade.opensuse.org will succeed when there is no content on the wiki that is probably easier to keep up to date?

I am not asking for a new page, I am just asking for a redirect to the same page that exists in the wiki. Obviously we dont want to get her hands full with needless things

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Do we need another http://help.opensuse.org ? It is used in many places and it so empty that is shame that we keep it on the web (which reminds me on a problem with some language wikies).

-- Regards, Rajko

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