On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 09:25 +0200, jdd wrote:

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Hello,

I must admit the first time I was asked to use etherpad my first movement was to don't like it.

But after some use, it seems so well fitted for our work (collaborative writing of small documents), that my mind completely changed.

However I'm worried to have documents spread randomly and to have early versions accessible with google.

So I think we should use a "professional" ietherpad account (as far as I understand it's free) - any of us - and use some sort of tree organisation.

for example a starting point as

ietherpad.com/opensuse-marketting

with a summary of the other page (table of contents)

and for example, a page

ietherpad.com/opensuse-marketting-flyerv4

for the flyer in discussion

I think once a page is openned it's possible to have several administrators. I think also that we can accept any volunteer to connect on this etherpad, my only concern being google (or other indexing system).

Jos, what do you think? will you open this page or do you want me to do? or do you prefere to stay completely open?

thanks jdd

I'll reiterate a comment I made somewhere else that never got a reply...

etherpad-lite, although the naming connotations are inaccurate, is a far superior product to the traditional etherpad. There's an image on SUSE Gallery[1] that runs fine in as little as 360MB RAM, and instances have been running internally at SUSE for over a month without any issues.

I *strongly* recommend we bring up our own etherpad-lite server somewhere ( http://pad.opensuse.org ? ), and stop cluttering around everywhere else.

[1] http://susegallery.com/a/R8DAbW/etherpad-lite # Yes I built it... so ;-)

- James M Absolutely agreed. Too muxh of... well everything is scattered all over the

On Thursday, September 22, 2011 09:41:09 AM James Mason wrote: place. We need to centralize more. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 14:42 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

I do think it's a good idea to have a close etherpad. The problem right now is that none of the 'free' etherpads out there are very stable - they are down quite frequently. Ideally I'd like to have our own etherpad install. There is an openFATE request for that: https://features.opensuse.org/310652

There are some packages now but afaik it's a bit complicated to get it up and running. If you want you could check the packages, see if they install and work on an openSUSE system and then talk to Darix or so to get an etherpad up and running somewhere... You willing to do that?

Agreed, Yaloki tried an instance earlier this year on openSUSE-Community and it just wasn't stable. I'm not sure of the technical reasons why. Also, the other thing to think about is that if its not properly organized, then we'd run into essentially the same mess we have now on the public pad sites. As multiple teams start adding stuff to a single instance, things will get convoluted. James suggested possibly creating an instance for each team. I don't know how the Server Gods will like that, but from my perspective, it is a reasonable solution. As for a "closed" pad, I don't think I'm too wild about that idea. I think there are some nice advantages to it (such as embargoed articles), but it also requires additional administrative overhead which I've had to deal with on the several closed pads I manage these days. I think it should be an open per-team instance installation. We want contributors to be able to write things up on the fly without waiting for someone to give them rights to log in. But in any case, let's start making a serious attempt to push for a solution here. We have to find a way to end the proliferation madness without letting it impede our work. And pads have definitely proven to be a valuable tool for us to do our jobs. Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org