On Saturday 11 May 2013 14:20:01 Peter Czanik wrote:

Hello,

On 05/11/2013 01:55 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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For example, the boothbox contents are being developed here: https://board.opensuse.org/projects/travel-support-program-management/wi ki/Booth_box Input welcome, of course.

OK. Just read it (well, most of it :-) ). So, I have a couple of questions:

- Here in Hungary I'm aware of four larger events for this year, and by local measures "larger" means 100+ visitors :-) Neither of them reach the magic 1k visitor number mentioned on the page, but the combined number is expected to be over 2k. What to do in this case?

For the first year, that means there won't be any materials from Nuremberg. However, you can use the travel program which has a Eur 100 budget per event to create things locally. Moreover, once the list I've created is more public we can discuss things like this. It might indeed make sense to send one box to Hungary, but then we have to ensure that the materials actually make it to these events. The goal is to try and get materials to several countries and get things to the right place within the country. We'll just have to focus - if you have seen the costs of the boxes (the small box would be over Eur 700, and shipping is usually about the same) I hope you understand we have only a limited number of them. We will have to be smart about it - and how to do that exactly we still have to figure out.

- Our next and largest event will be held in about a month (FSF Hungary Conference: http://konf.fsf.hu/ ). I ordered DVDs two months in advance just to learn last week, that they will never arrive. Can you send a "small box" on time (if at all)?

I doubt it, I'm sorry. We will hopefully begin ordering materials by the end of this month but I don't expect anything to be send out before the end of June... Also, we'll use the slowest shipment options to limit the costs so I don't think any event will have a box until after the openSUSE Conference. This all just takes a LOT of time and work. Also, the question is if the events in Hungary are on the list of events we will support the coming 12 months. This list contains the events from our ambassador event wiki [1] as well as the events I was told about when I asked (several times) on the ambassador and marketing lists for help with making the list. So again, travel committee has budget. Use it, please.

Bye, CzP

[1] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassadors_events

On Saturday 11 May 2013 17:53:05 Peter Czanik wrote:

Hello,

On 05/11/2013 04:15 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Saturday 11 May 2013 14:20:01 Peter Czanik wrote:

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Hello,

On 05/11/2013 01:55 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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For example, the boothbox contents are being developed here: https://board.opensuse.org/projects/travel-support-program-management/ wi ki/Booth_box Input welcome, of course.

OK. Just read it (well, most of it :-) ). So, I have a couple of questions:

- Here in Hungary I'm aware of four larger events for this year, and by local measures "larger" means 100+ visitors :-) Neither of them reach the magic 1k visitor number mentioned on the page, but the combined number is expected to be over 2k. What to do in this case?

For the first year, that means there won't be any materials from Nuremberg. However, you can use the travel program which has a Eur 100 budget per event to create things locally.

Good news, but where is it documented? I could not find it in the wiki...

I noticed it got removed from the wiki. I suggest you ask the travel support team.

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Moreover, once the list I've created is more public we can discuss things like this. It might indeed make sense to send one box to Hungary, but then we have to ensure that the materials actually make it to these events. I'm at all the major (and minor) Hungarian events, as I'm the community guy of syslog-ng. And I maintain close contact with the Hungarian openSUSE / LibreOffice developers and a few more "core" Hungarian openSUSE users, so I can find backups if I can't participate an event.

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I doubt it, I'm sorry. We will hopefully begin ordering materials by the end of this month but I don't expect anything to be send out before the end of June...

OK, even with slowest shipment it would arrive on time for Software Freedom Day, the first event in the Autumn.

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Also, we'll use the slowest shipment options to limit the costs so I

don't think any event will have a box until after the openSUSE Conference. This all just takes a LOT of time and work.

Also, the question is if the events in Hungary are on the list of events we will support the coming 12 months. This list contains the events from our ambassador event wiki [1] as well as the events I was told about when I asked (several times) on the ambassador and marketing lists for help with making the list.

By the time you asked, I did not know exact dates or which conferences will be held this year. Now I talked with organizers, so even if the websites are not yet updated and final dates published I know that they will be there. I added them to the wiki page with as much details as currently available.

Once our plans are more concrete I'll see if I can add it to the list of our events.

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So again, travel committee has budget. Use it, please.

OK, just please point me to a "howto"!

See above - pls ask the travel support team. I'm not sure what the situation is with this. I can point to my blog announcing it: http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2012/06/improved-support-for-events.html I hope it helps. Hugs, J

Thanks for your help Bye, CzP

I'm not sure about the periods of Local Coordinators, as I understood, there might be more than one Coordinator per area. Also as long as the coordinator is active, there should be no reason to cancel their coordination duties. I do agree on the TSP coordinators point. Cheers! On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) wrote:

Στις 10/05/2013 08:43 μμ, ο/η Richard Brown έγραψε:

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Hello Everyone,

After months of hard work and discussion, we're finally ready to make significant changes to the Ambassador programme.

The article at http://news.opensuse.org/2013/05/10/ambassadors-event-merchendise-all-change... goes into detail about what is changing and why, but to summarize

- Our openSUSE Ambassadors are being renamed to 'openSUSE Advocates', and the process is opened up so anyone can volunteer themselves as an Advocate without needing to be vetted by the Ambassador Welcome Team

- We're introducing a new role of 'Local Coordinator' and looking for volunteers. These local coordinators will be a designated point of contact for new openSUSE users/contributors who need help finding their way around the project, and also responsible for helping organize and report on the activities of the openSUSE Advocates in their area. Details and how to sign up can be found on the wiki: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Local_Coordinator

- Also, changes are being made regarding the Merchandising for Events. Instead of boxes of PromoDVD's, specialised boxes full of high quality items, everything openSUSE Advocates need to fully equip a booth, are being put together. These will be shipped (by the openSUSE Team at SUSE) in advance of events. It's expected that our new Local Coordinators will be a big part of putting together a list of events so we will know which events need what materials.

We hope these changes are to everyone's liking. Please let us know what you think, and pardon any dust and rough edges while we transition from the old to the new

Regards,

Richard Brown openSUSE Board Member

Hello mates,

That program looks better. It'll work. A suggestion regarding Local Coordinator is every 1 or 2 years, the local community should decide the contact person for the next period (something similar to Ubuntu LoCo contact).

Maybe the same thing should be done with TSP coordinators since it's money involved. A proposal is to elect them during board elections. Anyways, that's just a thought.

Regards, Stathis

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hmmm now that I talking with a friend over here and I needed to translated to him to Portuguese the changes from Ambassador Program to Advocate Program and finally I found why this new name does not sound good for me, I mean, before now I just felling something strange about the new name, but now that I had to translated (pretty funny because is pretty much the same Portuguese and English for this word) I realize that Advocate could be not the best name to use for the new Program. I don't know in other languages but in Portuguese this make us remind about the laws, lawyers, ppl that work in justice, court.. and this new program name could be easily misunderstood or even worse could be a negative thing. "Why do I need to talk with openSUSE Advocate, I did nothing wrong, against the law I don't need a Advocate" I know Advocate is different word than lawyer but I'm luck Brazilian guy that is part of less then 2% of Brazilians that could communicate in English, very poor way, but I can eheh, sorry but this is true and really bad, and sad :( So as I know the Advocate is a false cognate in language rules, very few ppl know. Then this name could be a very negative name and a kind of barrier for us to get involved in opensource things here. I had not start to thing at any suggestion for the new name yet. But if you guys agree with me, we can start to think about new name. Maybe a pool at connect? Even if this false cognate word "Advocate" only happens and exist in Portuguese language I still believe that is enough to consider a different name to minimize and mitigate the risk of been misunderstood when we introduce our selfs as "openSUSE Advocates" or to not spend time explain why this name instead of spending time talking about projects, ideas, involvement, contributions... 2013/5/17 Jos Poortvliet :

On Monday 13 May 2013 16:28:20 Sebastian Oliva wrote:

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I'm not sure about the periods of Local Coordinators, as I understood, there might be more than one Coordinator per area. Also as long as the coordinator is active, there should be no reason to cancel their coordination duties. I do agree on the TSP coordinators point.

I think the time limit is an interesting idea as it might make sure others have a chance to help, too. And giving the local community a say can be helpful, too. But for now - let's set it up and see where it goes :D

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Cheers!

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr)

wrote:

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Στις 10/05/2013 08:43 μμ, ο/η Richard Brown έγραψε:

...

Hello Everyone,

After months of hard work and discussion, we're finally ready to make significant changes to the Ambassador programme.

The article at http://news.opensuse.org/2013/05/10/ambassadors-event-merchendise-all-c hange/ goes into detail about what is changing and why, but to summarize

- Our openSUSE Ambassadors are being renamed to 'openSUSE Advocates', and the process is opened up so anyone can volunteer themselves as an Advocate without needing to be vetted by the Ambassador Welcome Team

- We're introducing a new role of 'Local Coordinator' and looking for volunteers. These local coordinators will be a designated point of contact for new openSUSE users/contributors who need help finding their way around the project, and also responsible for helping organize and report on the activities of the openSUSE Advocates in their area. Details and how to sign up can be found on the wiki: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Local_Coordinator

- Also, changes are being made regarding the Merchandising for Events. Instead of boxes of PromoDVD's, specialised boxes full of high quality items, everything openSUSE Advocates need to fully equip a booth, are being put together. These will be shipped (by the openSUSE Team at SUSE) in advance of events. It's expected that our new Local Coordinators will be a big part of putting together a list of events so we will know which events need what materials.

We hope these changes are to everyone's liking. Please let us know what you think, and pardon any dust and rough edges while we transition from the old to the new

Regards,

Richard Brown openSUSE Board Member

Hello mates,

That program looks better. It'll work. A suggestion regarding Local Coordinator is every 1 or 2 years, the local community should decide the contact person for the next period (something similar to Ubuntu LoCo contact).

Maybe the same thing should be done with TSP coordinators since it's money involved. A proposal is to elect them during board elections. Anyways, that's just a thought.

Regards, Stathis

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