yes, probably, but for now connect is not user friendly (I just come from it), don't compare to facebook, for example (I know...).

by the way, making report have little interest. I don't know for the others, but I do bimonthly meetings in my LUG and promote openSUSE nearly each time, spreading dvd's. I wont report each.

jdd

I've been trying to use Connect a little, but not much seems to be happening there. I think it's a great idea but not quite working yet. Though I was thinking of starting an Australian group there was a way to connect with Aussie Ambassador and users. What about just using a blog/planet for Ambassador reports? People just blog in their own language, english if they can, so local people can read the report or we can use Google translate those who have no English. Some sort of aggregate feed would make it easy for News team to pull the most interesting reports for a monthly roundup of Ambassador activity for those who haven't already reported major events. I noticed Michael Meeks has a blog where he comments just in a simple line about what he has been doing work-wise, and I think that sort of simple activity report can be quite good - interesting to see what people are doing, without expecting an essay. (I agree JDD, filling out a form, writing a report is time consuming and boring!) cheers Helen -- IRC: helen_au helen.south@opensuse.org helensouth.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

@Helen The ambassadors are already asked to join the planet but only a few do On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Tony Su wrote:

Yesterday I also took my first spin through Connect and my initial impression is that it only can provide a partial solution, sort of like a clone of Linkedin, not quite but possibly can be used like Meetup.

As others have noted, Connect isn't a single centralized, authorized "portal" type tool to do "everything" like what we need.

Until I can fully investigate currently available tools and options, I'd recommend for now simply using Google Docs and Sites as a temporary solution with Bryen's and Jos' approval. A private Docs and Website can be created (I'll do it if needed), which would then be accessible by any participant who has a Google Account (eg Gmail). There is a 100mb storage limit when this is setup on a free Google account.

I wouldn't consider Google Apps as a complete Customer Relations Management type app (Hey, I wonder if SugarCRM would be an ideal solution), but I think that it could be a short term solution that everyone can work easily without a steep learning curve.

Informal poll -- If people can note whether they have any previous experience with SugarCRM, pls message me privately if not to the List.

Tony

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Helen South wrote:

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yes, probably, but for now connect is not user friendly (I just come from it), don't compare to facebook, for example (I know...).

by the way, making report have little interest. I don't know for the others, but I do bimonthly meetings in my LUG and promote openSUSE nearly each time, spreading dvd's. I wont report each.

...

jdd

I've been trying to use Connect a little, but not much seems to be happening there. I think it's a great idea but not quite working yet. Though I was thinking of starting an Australian group there was a way to connect with Aussie Ambassador and users.

What about just using a blog/planet for Ambassador reports? People just blog in their own language, english if they can, so local people can read the report or we can use Google translate those who have no English. Some sort of aggregate feed would make it easy for News team to pull the most interesting reports for a monthly roundup of Ambassador activity for those who haven't already reported major events.

I noticed Michael Meeks has a blog where he comments just in a simple line about what he has been doing work-wise, and I think that sort of simple activity report can be quite good - interesting to see what people are doing, without expecting an essay.

(I agree JDD, filling out a form, writing a report is time consuming and boring!)

cheers

Helen

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On 03/16/2011 08:51 AM, jdd wrote:

Le 16/03/2011 01:37, Tony Su a écrit :

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Yesterday I also took my first spin through Connect and my initial impression is that it only can provide a partial solution, sort of like a clone of Linkedin, not quite but possibly can be used like Meetup.

As others have noted, Connect isn't a single centralized, authorized "portal" type tool to do "everything" like what we need.

I don't know if you practice Facebook.

I learned it last year when my son went to Australia.

It's a great tool to keep track of a group work and extend user network (network there is personal relationship).

It have blogging capability, article capability. and is not only related to openSUSE, so any ambassador can do his openSUSE job as a side work from his other occupations.

It is extremely easy to creat an openSUSE ambassador group (and one for each group that want one, and the groups can keep track of the activities of the other groups.

The Facebook success is not random

that said, the main problem is that it's *too* easy to create a group, so there as many at the moment, one should be made "official"

jdd

I will never never never use FaceBook. I don't trust them. Connect is a new tool, which will be used to manage all the user/member stuff of openSUSE. Like the votation, (you all use it in January, haven't you) It's our tool, it's new so imperfect, but ours. If something is broken, need adjustement bugzilla is there for that, or openfate for futur wishes. Or simply ask Pavel about your needs, or how this tool can be used to resolve certain of our marketing/ambassador needs. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

On 2011-03-16 jdd wrote:

Le 16/03/2011 09:00, Bruno Friedmann a écrit :

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I will never never never use FaceBook. I don't trust them.

trust for what? all what we are talking about is public

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Connect is a new tool, which will be used to manage all the user/member stuff of openSUSE. Like the votation, (you all use it in January, haven't you)

but it's yet an other tool that people have to learn.

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It's our tool, it's new so imperfect, but ours. If something is broken, need adjustement bugzilla is there for that, or openfate for futur wishes.

Or simply ask Pavel about your needs, or how this tool can be used to resolve certain of our marketing/ambassador needs.

really now it fits no need... I'm not interested *only* in openSUSE, why should I learn each time new tools? wiki, lizards, forums, mailing lists, obs, and so many nobody can follow.

connect was said to be a centralized tool, so I went to see it. What is centralized? can I blog there and see my article in the wiki? Can I ask for help and see my question sent to mailing lists and forum?

Some tools *have* to be original (OBS, for example), but social tools don't. Somebody else proposed to use Goggle tools, why not? but for now the social network is facebook.

where can you talk about openSUSE 11.4, japan EarthQuake, son employement and daugther cast in a new film, all this on the same place?

Connect just needs a bit more love ;-) But ppl like Pavol are working on that and improving it every day!

jdd