On 20 May 2013 21:09, Jim Henderson firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Hence my suggestion at an alternate word in Portuguese that seems to mean what Richard means with the word "Advocate".
Or, OK, we pick a different word because "Advocate" is too close to "Advocator" in Portuguese. So the next word we pick is a word that means "total bastard" in some other language, and we have the debate again.
Does it /really/ make sense to look for something because "Advocate" is too close to the Portuguese for "Lawyer", when it's easily worked around by referring to the program as the "openSUSE Defensor" program in Portuguese? Or when the page for the Advocate program explains that we're not talking about *lawyers* here, but talking about *advocates*?
I would like to suggest we go with Jim's suggestion. The name openSUSE Advocate was chosen after a long debate with a fair number of people, and ultimately was decided collectively by the Board at our recent Face to Face meeting. Many of the other names suggested in this thread were considered - openSUSE Evangelist was my original favorite until the obvious religious connotations eliminated it.
I understand that whatever word we may have chosen wouldn't work in every language, and I think it's perfectly reasonably for our local communities to translate the title suitably for their language. We already have many of our Greek openSUSE Advocates calling themselves Greekos for example
For anyone wondering why we're changing the name at all, I really wanted to eliminate many of the connotations that the title 'Ambassador' brings. Ambassadors are typically an official assigned role, someone chosen to speak for whoever they're representing.
This isn't really the intent of our openSUSE Advocacy program, which is meant to encourage people to step up, volunteer and advocate/encourage/promote the use of openSUSE, and in return get whatever tools and support the openSUSE project can provide them to help them spread the word about our Project.
I felt it was important that the new title do a much better job of accurately reflecting the job our Advocates do and the fact they step up to do it, not assigned into the role.
And despite the feedback to the contrary, I still feel it is the best title for the programme, and would rather we find a more elegant solution for any languages where it doesn't translate as well.
Hope this clears this up a little for everyone
- Richard Brown openSUSE Board Member
Well we have advocate and evangelist that "might" cause us some problems. I would like also to add ambassador that sounds more politics role than actual promote openSUSE role (by the way promoter is cool word because it's just a word). Do we want a title to do the "job"? Personally I think only openSUSE member counts if someone wants to show off (or to involve). Even that, if it comes to promote openSUSE at booth, it doesn't matter to the visitor if you're openSUSE member, local coordinator, advocate, promoter, geeko, jedi or buzz lightyear. It matters if you know how to "sell" it right.