Hello I personally think that this is a concern that should be also shared with our marketing team looping them in. We probably need to advertise server, edge stories bit more in our annoucements. There will be a bit more EDGE advertisment in Micro related articles. Thank you for raising the concern Sasi Olin píše v Po 14. 03. 2022 v 15:48 +0100:

On Mo, Mär 14 2022 at 15:30:52 +0100, Richard Brown <rbrown@suse.de> wrote:

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Maybe the laptop being the only computer you can see on www.opensuse.org?

Maybe because the Tumbleweed description mentions desktops and office applications but no obvious server/cloud/edge/embedded use cases? (Samba and git straddle multiple realms).

Maybe because the Leap description only mentions 'pick your desktop...'

Maybe because news articles like https://news.opensuse.org/2022/03/02/leap-reaches-beta-build-phase/ emphasise Plasma, GNOME, Enlightenment, but don't mention a single use case besides desktop, and asks users to test it on " on multiple laptops, workstations and other hardware devices"

Conciously or not, I'd say openSUSE has a desktop bias problem that it needs to address, especially when it comes to how we talk about ourselves.

I hope you will be glad to learn I'm trying my best to make both get-o-o and www-o-o (which has been in the works for 3 years and isn't really expected to be finished anytime soon) appeal to a wider set of audiences than just desktop users (while also making it easier for the specific audiences to find their way around the project).

The thing that stops me the most is that I'm not a copy writer and I can't come up with good text to market everything about the projects and its output well at all, I got plenty of help from others in this area already, and so things are moving at a faster pace, but this seems to be a general issue with our websites, text is kind of a mess and people don't understand things we try to communicate.

Finding out anything about the project, the distros is a matter of asking a lot of questions to the community on communication platforms instead it seems, which we are frankly happy to answer, but not everyone will ask before they just give up after trying to look it up for themselves.

Also Richard, I hope I don't have to state the obvious, but I did not see any bug reports/issues on the subject of the websites targeting desktop more. I really wish I could read y'alls' minds, so I knew how to please you in what our messaging on the core websites is, but I can't do it no matter how hard I try.

LCP [Sasi] https://lcp.world/

-- Best regards Lubos Kocman openSUSE Leap Release Manager